{"id":288,"date":"2010-11-09T20:54:40","date_gmt":"2010-11-10T01:54:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=288"},"modified":"2012-11-15T10:46:42","modified_gmt":"2012-11-15T15:46:42","slug":"ws-pitcher-review-and-lees-horrendous-decision-in-game-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=288","title":{"rendered":"WS Pitcher Review and Lee&#8217;s horrendous Decision in Game 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_335\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/edgar-renteria-alt-307ml110110.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-335\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-335\" title=\"edgar-renteria-alt-307ml110110\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/edgar-renteria-alt-307ml110110-300x234.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"234\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/edgar-renteria-alt-307ml110110-300x234.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/edgar-renteria-alt-307ml110110.jpg 307w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-335\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Edgar Renteria buried the Rangers in Game 5.  Photo: Stephen Dunn\/Getty Images.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>(this is a follow-up to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=291\">previous posting <\/a>about the Giant&#8217;s World Series victory).<\/p>\n<p>Despite the supposed massive superiority of the American League and its juggernaut payroll teams, a team from the National League (one that barely made the playoffs no less) was crowned WS champion after a rather tidy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfgate.com\/cgi-bin\/article.cgi?f=\/c\/a\/2010\/11\/01\/SP7S1G5BQ6.DTL&amp;tsp=1\">4-1 series victory<\/a>.\u00a0 The Giants are certainly not a low-payroll team; they started the season with the league&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/spreadsheets.google.com\/ccc?key=0Aoe2S6_m1TendDVwM2swOHJMdkwtbVhhVDVPM2E5YkE&amp;authkey=CJSIurEP&amp;hl=en#gid=0\">9th highest payroll<\/a>, finished the regular season with the 5th best record and advanced through the playoffs with relative ease (they were 11-4 in the playoffs altogether, losing 2 <strong>Sanchez <\/strong>starts, a <strong>Lincecum <\/strong>and a <strong>Cain <\/strong>start (despite Cain continuing a 22 inning post season no earned-run streak).<\/p>\n<p>Not that it mattered in the end, but game 5 certainly turned on a questionable pitching strategy decision just before the decisive 3-run homer in the 7th.\u00a0 <strong>Cody Ross <\/strong>led off with a single (continuing his amazing post season and certainly buying him FA dollars in the off season).\u00a0 <strong>Cliff Lee <\/strong>made an 0-2 mistake to <strong>Uribe <\/strong>who smacked a single into center.\u00a0 After a fantastic career-first sacrifice\/drag bunt by <strong>Aubrey Huff<\/strong>, Cliff Lee had runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out.\u00a0 Lee battled <strong>Burrell <\/strong>to 3-2 before striking him out on an outside cutter.\u00a0 This seemed at the time to be the game-changing strikeout that Lee needed but he quickly fell behind the next batter <strong>Edgar Renteria <\/strong>2-0, missing badly with two curveballs.\u00a0 Announcer <strong>Tim McCarver<\/strong>, often villified as being the master of the obvious, stated very clearly that the right decision upon falling behind 2-0 would be to walk Renteria, load the bases with 2 outs and start afresh with the on-deck hitter <strong>Aaron Rowand <\/strong>(a sub in the series and not nearly the threat of Renteria).\u00a0 Before McCarver could finish his thought, Lee grooved a 2-0 fastball, belt high, down the middle of the plate and the aging, soon-to-be-retired Renteria didn&#8217;t miss.\u00a0 He crushed a 3-run homer and the game was essentially over.\u00a0 Lincecum pitched 8 complete (giving up a meaningless homer to <strong>Nelson Cruz<\/strong>) before oddball closer <strong>Brian Wilson <\/strong>blew through the heart of the Rangers lineup (<strong>Hamilton<\/strong>, <strong>Guerrero <\/strong>and Cruz again) to get the save and finish out the series.<\/p>\n<p>Why does Lee not walk Renteria there?\u00a0 Why does the pitching coach see the obvious situation, run out to the mound and say, &#8220;hey, lets just throw two fastballs a foot outside and start over on Rowand?&#8221;\u00a0 This is the reason MLB teams have bench coaches; to help the manager manage the game.\u00a0 It was the latest in a series of curious pitching moves (or non-moves) from the Rangers coaching staff.\u00a0 In reality Lee is a competitor and probably thinks he can get anyone out, at any time, let alone an over-the-hill bounce-around-the league veteran like Renteria.\u00a0 But, no matter what the quality of the hitter mistakes in Major League Baseball quickly turn into gopher balls.<\/p>\n<p>Overview of all 15 games the Giants played this offseason:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" width=\"452\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"76\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"75\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"69\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"95\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"77\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"60\"><\/col>\n<\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td width=\"76\" height=\"20\">Series\/Game   #<\/td>\n<td width=\"75\">Giants SP<\/td>\n<td width=\"69\">Opponent SP<\/td>\n<td width=\"95\">Game Result<\/td>\n<td width=\"77\">WP<\/td>\n<td width=\"60\">LP<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\"><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLDS-1<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Lowe<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 1-0<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Lowe<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLDS-2<\/td>\n<td>Cain<\/td>\n<td>Hansen<\/td>\n<td>Braves W 5-4<\/td>\n<td>Farnsworth<\/td>\n<td>Ramirez<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLDS-3<\/td>\n<td>Sanchez<\/td>\n<td>Hudson<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 3-2<\/td>\n<td>Romo<\/td>\n<td>Kimbrel<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLDS-4<\/td>\n<td>Bumgarner<\/td>\n<td>Lowe<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 3-2<\/td>\n<td>Bumgarner<\/td>\n<td>Lowe<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\"><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLCS-1<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Halladay<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 4-3<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Halladay<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLCS-2<\/td>\n<td>Sanchez<\/td>\n<td>Oswalt<\/td>\n<td>Phillies 6-1<\/td>\n<td>Oswalt<\/td>\n<td>Sanchez<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLCS-3<\/td>\n<td>Cain<\/td>\n<td>Hamels<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 3-0<\/td>\n<td>Cain<\/td>\n<td>Hamels<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLCS-4<\/td>\n<td>Bumgarner<\/td>\n<td>Blanton<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 6-5<\/td>\n<td>Wilson<\/td>\n<td>Oswalt<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLCS-5<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Halladay<\/td>\n<td>Phillies 4-2<\/td>\n<td>Halladay<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">NLCS-6<\/td>\n<td>Sanchez<\/td>\n<td>Oswalt<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 3-2<\/td>\n<td>Lopez<\/td>\n<td>Madson<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\"><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">WS-1<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Lee<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 11-7<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Lee<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">WS-2<\/td>\n<td>Cain<\/td>\n<td>Wilson<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 9-0<\/td>\n<td>Cain<\/td>\n<td>Wilson<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">WS-3<\/td>\n<td>Sanchez<\/td>\n<td>Lewis<\/td>\n<td>Rangers W 4-2<\/td>\n<td>Lewis<\/td>\n<td>Sanchez<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">WS-4<\/td>\n<td>Bumgarner<\/td>\n<td>Hunter<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 4-0<\/td>\n<td>Bumgarner<\/td>\n<td>Hunter<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">WS-5<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Lee<\/td>\n<td>Giants W 3-1<\/td>\n<td>Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>Lee<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>SF Starting Pitching Stats in the playoffs (all three series combined)<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" width=\"494\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"86\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"47\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"33\"><\/col>\n<col width=\"72\"><\/col>\n<col span=\"4\" width=\"64\"><\/col>\n<\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td width=\"86\" height=\"20\">Pitcher<\/td>\n<td width=\"47\">Starts<\/td>\n<td width=\"33\">w\/l<\/td>\n<td width=\"72\">Team w\/L<\/td>\n<td width=\"64\">ip<\/td>\n<td width=\"64\">k\/bb<\/td>\n<td width=\"64\">era<\/td>\n<td width=\"64\">whip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">Lincecum<\/td>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td>4-1<\/td>\n<td>4-1<\/td>\n<td>37<\/td>\n<td>43\/9<\/td>\n<td>2.43<\/td>\n<td>0.92<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">Cain<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>2-0<\/td>\n<td>2-1<\/td>\n<td>21.33<\/td>\n<td>13\/7<\/td>\n<td>0<\/td>\n<td>0.94<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">Sanchez<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>0-1<\/td>\n<td>2-2<\/td>\n<td>20<\/td>\n<td>22\/9<\/td>\n<td>4.05<\/td>\n<td>1.25<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr height=\"20\">\n<td height=\"20\">Bumgarner<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>2-0<\/td>\n<td>3-0<\/td>\n<td>20.66<\/td>\n<td>18\/5<\/td>\n<td>2.12<\/td>\n<td>1.11<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>The cliche for post season baseball has always been, &#8220;good pitching beats good hitting&#8221; and we certainly saw this in the 2010 post season.\u00a0 The Giants featured 2 clear &#8220;Aces&#8221; in Lincecum and Cain, while witnessing a 21-yr old rookie <strong>Madison Bumgarner <\/strong>dominate on the sport&#8217;s biggest stage.\u00a0 Only #3 starter Sanchez struggled in this post season (if you can call a 4.05 era against the best teams in baseball truly &#8220;struggling&#8221;).\u00a0\u00a0 The world series featured the league&#8217;s best hitting team in Texas, but they were shut down by the Giant&#8217;s pitching staff, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/postseason\/2010_WS.shtml\">hitting .190<\/a> for the series.<\/p>\n<p>Ironically; what the Giants just finished doing to the Rangers is what most of the baseball world thought the Phillies and their vaunted rotation would be doing.\u00a0 Yes; the AL has the Red Sox and Yankees and Rays (by most opinions 3 of the best 5 teams in baseball) but the NL has the rotational depth to shutdown $150M rosters.\u00a0 If the Yankees want to compete next year, look no further than replacing <strong>Vazquez <\/strong>with Cliff Lee, turning the ineffective <strong>Burnett <\/strong>into a 5th starter (ala what SF did with <strong>Barry Zito<\/strong>) and finding themselves a solid #1a Ace behind <strong>Sabathia. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>How does this tie back to the Nats?\u00a0 The answer is clear; if you can put together a top notch starting rotation, you can go incredibly far.\u00a0 Imagine in 2012 this rotation: a healthy <strong>Strasburg<\/strong>, a strong and improving <strong>Jordan Zimmerman<\/strong>, an impressive young starter in <strong>Sammy Solis<\/strong>, a top notch free agent acquisition along the likes of <strong>Greinke<\/strong> or a healthy <strong>Brandon Webb<\/strong>, and a take your pick from our stable of #5 starters like <strong>Lannan<\/strong>, <strong>Detwiler<\/strong> or <strong>Maya<\/strong>.\u00a0 These guys can end losing streaks, keep your team in games, throw up quality starts 80% of the time, and turn a league average offense into a post season team.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;plan&#8221; anyway.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(this is a follow-up to a previous posting about the Giant&#8217;s World Series victory). 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