{"id":4139,"date":"2012-10-15T15:20:31","date_gmt":"2012-10-15T19:20:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=4139"},"modified":"2012-10-15T15:20:31","modified_gmt":"2012-10-15T19:20:31","slug":"we-miss-you-how-oaklands-gio-gonzalez-haul-did-in-2012","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=4139","title":{"rendered":"We miss you; How Oakland’s Gio Gonzalez haul did in 2012"},"content":{"rendered":"
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We miss you Tommy; Glad to see you're doing well. Photo AP\/Ben Margot via dailyrepublic.com<\/p><\/div>\n

Nationals farm system observers certainly knew we gave up a ton of talent to acquire Gio Gonzalez<\/strong> back in late 2011.\u00a0 Most of the pundits I read at the time thought the Nats overpaid for a high-walk guy who overly benefited from playing in the “pitcher friendly” Oakland Coliseum (I say that in quotes since the multi-year park factors for that stadium can be\u00a0nearly neutral<\/a> depending on which statistic and which time period you choose). \u00a0We know what we’ve gotten in Gonzalez so far; a gregarious, pro-team guy who pitched lights out in 2012, increasing his K\/9 and decreasing his BB\/9<\/a> from both last season and from his career norms and who led the majors in wins.\u00a0 He struggled in the playoffs of course, but his 21 wins were a big reason we were in the playoffs in the first place.<\/p>\n

How about our 4 former Nats? \u00a0How are they doing so far? \u00a0In rough order of impact:<\/p>\n

1. Tommy Milone<\/strong>: 13-10 with a 3.74 ERA<\/a> and 1.279 whip in 31 starts after winning Oakland’s #5 starter job out of camp. \u00a0 His debut was a sterling 8-inning 3 hit gem, and his season was a series of sterling outings<\/a> interrupted by blow-out starts. \u00a0Scouts routinely pegged him as a 4-A starter, with not enough stuff to last in the majors, but he got results for us last year and continued to get results this year. \u00a0He helped lead Oakland to an improbable AL West crown and was the team’s #2 starter in the playoffs. \u00a0For a guy that I thought was a 4-A starter, Oakland has to be happy to have him on their squad.<\/p>\n

2. Brad Peacock<\/strong>: Oakland is keeping him as a starter for now, and he toiled the entire season in AAA in Sacramento. \u00a0However, Peacock took a significant step backwards in 2012, posting a 12-9 record with an astounding 6.01 ERA<\/a>. \u00a0Even accounting for the known hitters parks in the Pacific Coast League, to go from a 3.19 ERA in Syracuse to nearly double that in Sacramento spells issues.\u00a0 \u00a0I still think he’s bound for a middle-relief role on account of his only really having two pitches, and on account of the amazing starter depth Oakland possesses in their system. \u00a0But, starter or reliever, Peacock has to pitch better in 2013.<\/p>\n

3. Derek Norris<\/strong> returned to the hitting form that we all knew and loved a couple years back once he reached Oakland’s AAA squad. \u00a0He\u00a0hit .271\/.329\/.477<\/a> in about a half season in Sacramento and was then called up. \u00a0 His MLB numbers weren’t great (.201\/.276\/.349<\/a>)\u00a0but he’s young and the team traded away its 6 year starter in Kurt Suzuki<\/strong> (to the Nats as we all know; sending Oakland yet another catcher prospect in the process) so Norris could be getting his chance sooner than later.<\/p>\n

4. AJ Cole<\/strong>, the “gem” of the trade completely melted in the High-A California league, with a 0-7 record and a 7.82 ERA in 8 starts<\/a>. \u00a0\u00a0He returned to form upon his return to low-A, going 6-3 with a 2.07 ERA in 19 starts in the Midwest league. \u00a0All is not lost; he’s only 20, and there’s no shame in a 20-yr old failing at his first shot at high-A (where you see a lot of college draftees in their second pro year).<\/p>\n

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One year later, how does this trade look for both teams? \u00a0My trade reaction post from December 2011<\/a> talked about how this trade would come down to how closely the four traded guys came to matching their “ceilings.” \u00a0One year later, I think its safe to say that Milone has surpassed his ceiling, Peacock is in danger of never even fulfilling his “floor,” Norris is somewhere in the middle and its just way too early to judge Cole.<\/p>\n

Meanwhile Gonzalez has surpassed what anyone could have hoped for in his first season; I thought he was a #2 starter but he put in an “Ace” year. \u00a0He may not win the Cy Young but he’ll be in the top 3 in voting. \u00a0He’s clearly a great clubhouse guy, a skill that you cannot put a dollar figure on.<\/p>\n

I think both teams probably do this deal again. \u00a0There were no “winners” and “losers” thus far; both teams got exactly what they wanted out of the trade.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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