{"id":4271,"date":"2012-07-18T23:55:41","date_gmt":"2012-07-19T03:55:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=4271"},"modified":"2013-08-29T13:50:24","modified_gmt":"2013-08-29T17:50:24","slug":"are-you-concerned-about-the-state-of-the-nats-farm-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=4271","title":{"rendered":"Are you concerned about the state of the Nats farm system?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4281\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/GiolitoLucas-Eric-Dearborn-photography-via-Win-for-Teddy-blog.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4281\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4281\" title=\"GiolitoLucas Eric-Dearborn-photography via Win for Teddy blog\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/GiolitoLucas-Eric-Dearborn-photography-via-Win-for-Teddy-blog-300x224.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/GiolitoLucas-Eric-Dearborn-photography-via-Win-for-Teddy-blog-300x224.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/GiolitoLucas-Eric-Dearborn-photography-via-Win-for-Teddy-blog.jpg 630w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4281\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Will Giolito become the Nats #1 prospect? Photo Eric Dearborn via Win For Teddy blog<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I know it seems silly to criticize the team with the best record in the NL, but I thought the question was worth asking, given a couple things I read this week prospects related. \u00a0Given the drain of prospects in the last 6 months (through the <strong>Gio Gonzalez<\/strong> trade and through graduation to the majors for several of the team&#8217;s better prospects), its safe to say that our cupboard is relatively thin right now. \u00a0This point was highlighted to me by two recent online articles;<\/p>\n<p>1. ESPN&#8217;s <strong>Keith Law<\/strong> posted a mid-season review of farm systems on the <a href=\"http:\/\/insider.espn.go.com\/mlb\/blog\/_\/name\/law_keith\/id\/8173265\/boston-red-sox-farm-system-the-upswing-mlb\">Rise or Fall<\/a> (sorry, insider only), and stated the obvious about our system. \u00a0His summary: Yes we got <strong>Lucas Giolito<\/strong> but it was essentially at the expense of any other high-end talent in the 2012 draft. \u00a0And, a lot of our high-end guys are taking significant tumbles on boards due to lack of performance or injury (see later on for a look at our top 10 prospect performances).<\/p>\n<p>2. Baseball America&#8217;s <strong>Jim Callis<\/strong> posted an updated Midseason top 50 prospects post 2012 draft and included where he&#8217;d put the top-end talents drafted (including international signees) in his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseballamerica.com\/today\/prospects\/ask-ba\/2012\/2613732.html\">weekly Ask BA feature<\/a> on July 16th. \u00a0 Of note to me was the fact that Washington, even with the signing of the high-end Giolito, does not have a SINGLE player in his mid-season 50. \u00a0 Luckily for us, our NL East competition didn&#8217;t fare too much better, with a grand total of 5 players between our divisional rivals. \u00a0This compared to teams like Seattle (5), Kansas City (4), and the rich-keep-getting-richer Rangers with 3 guys likely to become impact players within a year or two.<\/p>\n<p>Why is this a concern if the team is in first place? \u00a0Two primary reasons:<\/p>\n<p>1. If you&#8217;re not going to matriculate your prospects and depend on them for production, then you need to utilize them in trade to acquire needed talent. \u00a0There&#8217;s plenty of trade rumors right now mentioning the Nats desires for a starter to cover for <strong>Stephen Strasburg<\/strong>&#8216;s innings limit. \u00a0But who are we going to trade to acquire said pitcher? \u00a0 I&#8217;d go as far as saying that there&#8217;s not one guy on our 2012 top 10 prospect list (not including Harper and Lombardozzi of course) who, at this point in 2012, could be the centerpiece of a marquee acquisition.\u00a0 Who is trading for<strong> <\/strong>our #1 prospect<strong> Anthony Rendon<\/strong> right now?\u00a0 <strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>2. This team has a LOT of money committed to players over the coming years, and won&#8217;t be able to depend on hefty production from salary controlled guys forever. \u00a0They will need a stream of up-and-coming players to offer cheap alternatives to free agents and players who have become too expensive. \u00a0For example; in the year 2016 the team has <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheet\/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dFd1a3ktaTZFLUZDZm5oUzhLa3BoM3c&amp;output=html\">$47M committed<\/a> to just THREE players right now, before considering at least that much in arbitration for just Strasburg, <strong>Bryce Harper<\/strong> and <strong>Jordan Zimmermann<\/strong>. \u00a0$47M is nearly the team&#8217;s payroll just a few years ago! \u00a0Yes we will naturally grow payroll and revenues with success and the renegotiation of the MASN contract, but constructing a 25 man roster is about making choices. \u00a0The last thing we want is to see this team become the 2012 Philadelphia Phillies; a bloated, old team with a ton of injuries and the <a href=\"http:\/\/content.usatoday.com\/sportsdata\/baseball\/mlb\/salaries\/team\">2nd highest payroll<\/a> in the league at $175M, but mired in last place.<\/p>\n<p>For context of this discussion, here&#8217;s a list of Baseball America&#8217;s top 10 prospects for this team for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseballamerica.com\/today\/prospects\/rankings\/organization-top-10-prospects\/2011\/2611097.html\">2011<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/washington.nationals.mlb.com\/news\/article.jsp?ymd=20120201&amp;content_id=26538548&amp;vkey=pr_was&amp;c_id=was\">2012<\/a> (compiled after the Gonzalez trade), and a status of where they are as of now:<\/p>\n<table width=\"621\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"64\" \/>\n<col width=\"68\" \/>\n<col width=\"154\" \/>\n<col width=\"335\" \/> <\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"64\" height=\"20\"><strong><em>Year<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"68\"><strong><em>Nats Rank<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"154\"><strong><em>Name, pos<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"335\"><strong><em>Status<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>Bryce Harper, of<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In majors<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>Derek Norris, c<\/td>\n<td>Traded<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>Danny Espinosa, ss\/2b<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In majors<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>A.J. Cole, rhp<\/td>\n<td>Traded<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td>Wilson Ramos, c<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Out for Season (two knee surgeries)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<td>Sammy Solis, lhp<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Out for Season (Tommy John)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>Cole Kimball, rhp<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">60-day DL (shoulder surgery)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>Eury Perez, of<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">.299\/.325\/.342 in AA Harrisburg in his 6th pro season<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<td>Chris Marrero, 1b<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">60-day DL (torn hamstring)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2011<\/td>\n<td>10<\/td>\n<td>Brad Peacock, rhp<\/td>\n<td>Traded<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>That&#8217;s 2 guys who are starters in the Majors, 3 traded for Gonzalez, 4 guys on long term DL stints and <strong>Eury Perez<\/strong> with his meager .667 OPS in AA, in his 6th pro season. \u00a0How about 2012&#8217;s list?<\/p>\n<table width=\"621\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"64\" \/>\n<col width=\"68\" \/>\n<col width=\"154\" \/>\n<col width=\"335\" \/> <\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"64\" height=\"20\"><strong><em>Year<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"68\"><strong><em>Nats Rank<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"154\"><strong><em>Name, pos<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"335\"><strong><em>Status<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>Bryce Harper, OF<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In majors<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>Anthony Rendon, 3B<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Out for Season (broken ankle, his 3rd major leg injury in 4 years)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>Brian Goodwin, OF<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">.324\/.438\/.542 in low-A.\u00a0 Stellar season so far<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>Alex Meyer, RHP<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">7-4, 3.10 Era, 1.13 whip and 107\/34 k\/bb in 90IP in low-A Hagerstown.\u00a0 Just promoted<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>5<\/td>\n<td>Matt Purke, LHP<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Long term DL (Shoulder concerns); hasn&#8217;t thrown in 5 weeks.<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<td>Sammy Solis, LHP<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Out for Season (Tommy John)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>7<\/td>\n<td>Steve Lombardozzi, INF<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In Majors<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td>Destin Hood, OF<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">.223\/.296\/.313 in AA Harrisburg, in his 5th pro season<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<td>Chris Marrero, 1B<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">60-day DL (torn hamstring)<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2012<\/td>\n<td>10<\/td>\n<td>Michael Taylor, OF<\/td>\n<td><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">.225\/.314\/.333 in High-A Potomac in his 3rd pro season<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>2012&#8217;s list includes 4 major injury concerns, two guys under-performing (Hood and Taylor), and two guys matriculated to the majors. \u00a0The two players putting up good statistical seasons may come with astericks though; <strong>Alex Meyer<\/strong> was compiling his stats in low-A, going against guys 2-3 years younger than himself. \u00a0His promotion to High-A was overdue and should be telling, to determine if his future lays as a dominant 12-6 starter or a high-leverage reliever. \u00a0<strong>Brian Goodwin&#8217;s<\/strong> excellent season is a great sign of things to come &#8230; but again, in Low-A. \u00a0I know he was a Juco signee, but he&#8217;s 21 now, turning 22 in November and is the same age as college juniors getting drafted now. \u00a0If he continues to produce upon promotion to better competition, I&#8217;ll feel better.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I know there&#8217;s guys in our system who are coming back from injuries (i.e.\u00a0<strong>Nathan Karns<\/strong>), or who are putting up good numbers despite being lower draft picks (i.e.\u00a0<strong>Matt Skole, Cameron Selik, Danny Rosenbaum<\/strong>), and we have some guys who we acquired through trades and who are having surprisingly good seasons in the minors (i.e., <strong>Zach Walters<\/strong>, <strong>Ryan Perry<\/strong> and <strong>Corey Brown<\/strong>)\u00a0but are these kinds of players going to step up and either be a) next year&#8217;s top prospects or b) eventual productive major leaguers? \u00a0I know we all love Rosenbaum for example, but most scouts think he&#8217;s a marginal prospect at best (and his lack of inclusion on our top 10 lists reinforces that notion).<\/p>\n<p>This sudden lack of depth was one of the reasons I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=4211\">wasn&#8217;t the biggest fan<\/a> of drafting Giolito. \u00a0With the new draft rules and specific limits on bonuses, combined with the significant injury issues we&#8217;ve had with high end draftees Rendon and Purke in 2011&#8217;s draft, I thought the team should have gone the safer route. \u00a0Yes I&#8217;m sure <strong>Mike Rizzo<\/strong> did a ton of due diligence and was confident in Giolito&#8217;s long term health. \u00a0But missing on three first rounders (or in Purke&#8217;s case, a first round talent given a significant bonus and a 40-man deal) could lead to a significant hole in player development for this team right at a time a couple of years from now when they desperately need a MLB-minimum impact guy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I know it seems silly to criticize the team with the best record in the NL, but I thought the question was worth asking, given a couple things I read this week prospects related. \u00a0Given the drain of prospects in the last 6 months (through the Gio Gonzalez trade and through graduation to the majors [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,4,5],"tags":[262,185,257,164,20,143,851,462,385,440,43,110,852,733,166,129,196,543,38,866,853,1146],"class_list":["post-4271","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-draft","category-minorspitching","category-natsgeneral","tag-alex-meyer","tag-anthony-rendon","tag-brian-goodwin","tag-bryce-harper","tag-cameron-selik","tag-corey-brown","tag-danny-rosenbaum","tag-eury-perez","tag-gio-gonzalez","tag-jim-callis","tag-jordan-zimmermann","tag-keith-law","tag-lucas-giolito","tag-matt-skole","tag-matthew-purke","tag-mike-rizzo","tag-nathan-karns","tag-ryan-perry","tag-stephen-strasburg","tag-steve-lom","tag-tommy-john","tag-zach-walters"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4271","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4271"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4271\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7553,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4271\/revisions\/7553"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4271"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4271"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4271"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}