{"id":5270,"date":"2012-11-20T10:03:57","date_gmt":"2012-11-20T15:03:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=5270"},"modified":"2013-10-06T10:34:24","modified_gmt":"2013-10-06T14:34:24","slug":"nats-2012-rule-5-protection-analysis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=5270","title":{"rendered":"Nats 2012 Rule 5 Protection Analysis"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4501\" style=\"width: 160px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/KarnsNathan_potomac2012-Potomac-nats-official-via-milb.com_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4501\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-4501\" title=\"KarnsNathan_potomac2012 Potomac nats official via milb.com\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/KarnsNathan_potomac2012-Potomac-nats-official-via-milb.com_-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4501\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Is Nathan Karns a 40-man roster addition candidate ahead of the rule-5 draft?  Photo Potomac Nationals official via milb.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p>In part I on this topic yesterday, we talked about the Nats Rule 5 draft history. \u00a0Today we&#8217;ll talk about Parts II and III: who the Nats may think about protecting ahead of this year&#8217;s Rule 5 draft, and what the team may be seeking if they participated and drafted a player or two in the Rule 5 draft themselves.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Part II<\/span><strong>: Nationals Rule-5 Draft Protection Candidates.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=4444\">kvetched a little bit about this topic<\/a> in this space earlier this off-season, talking about the lack of roster space for the upcoming Rule 5 draft. \u00a0I suspected that as a result of MLB deals given to guys like <strong>Anthony Rendon<\/strong> and <strong>Matthew Purke<\/strong>, in addition to the glut of guys we had to add mid season, we may be seeing some guys not getting protected this year that would be in other years. \u00a0As of today, the Nats <a href=\"http:\/\/washington.nationals.mlb.com\/team\/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=was\">40-man roster sits at 36 players<\/a> with a bit of immediate room to spare (we could non-tender the likes of <strong>John Lannan<\/strong>, <strong>Tom Gorzelanny<\/strong> or <strong>Jesus Flores <\/strong>(speaking of Rule 5 additions) in a pinch, and I think <strong>Carlos Rivero<\/strong> may be imminently DFA&#8217;d), but we also have several 25-man roster spots departing via free agency that need to be filled, quickly filling back in those empty spots. \u00a0So, perhaps the issue isn&#8217;t as bad as I thought it might be.<\/p>\n<p>That being said, here&#8217;s a look at some of our Rule 5 eligible guys that may warrant protection. \u00a0For &#8220;official&#8221; opinions here&#8217;s <strong>Mark Zuckerman<\/strong>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.natsinsider.com\/2012\/11\/who-needs-to-be-protected.html\">Rule5 post<\/a>, along with <strong>Adam Kilgore<\/strong>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/nationals-journal\/wp\/2012\/11\/20\/minor-leaguers-the-nationals-might-choose-for-40-man-roster\/?wprss=rss_nationals-journal\">version of the same analysis<\/a>. \u00a0This is a combination of first-time eligible guys for the 2012 draft (mostly, guys who were college junior draftees from 2009 or high school draftees in 2008), prior year eligible guys who have suddenly worked their way onto the radar, and any International FA signing from 2008 or before (they are treated the same way as high school age draftees). \u00a0Working off a list that <strong>Luke Erickson<\/strong> posted <a href=\"http:\/\/nationalsprospects.com\/2011\/11\/rule-5-thoughts\/#comment-18793\">LAST november<\/a>, along with his post on the <a href=\"http:\/\/nationalsprospects.com\/2012\/11\/rule-5-thoughts-2\/\">same topic this week<\/a>, and of course referencing the two great nats farm system resources maintained by &#8220;SpringfieldFan&#8221; (and formerly by <strong>Brian Oliver<\/strong>): the <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheet\/ccc?key=0AmkEIm1TLiXQdGhVRjRfNW81SG8xRlROQ1ZxZzNfbUE&amp;hl=en#gid=0\">Nats Draft Tracker<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheet\/ccc?key=0AmkEIm1TLiXQdHExYldZVUZJZk9uckFjeEVCSmR5Umc&amp;hl=en#gid=0\">Nats Big Board<\/a>, here&#8217;s some thoughts on protection candidates:<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Stronger Candidates to protect<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Nathan Karns<\/strong>: he finally had an injury-free season, and he <a href=\"http:\/\/www.milb.com\/milb\/stats\/stats.jsp?sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=501992\">put up numbers as expected<\/a> when the team gave him an above-slot deal in 2009. \u00a0He is older, and only projects as a AA starter in 2013, but he is an intriguing starter prospect for the Nats in 2014.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Destin Hood<\/strong>: I don&#8217;t think the team is ready to give up on the long-term 2008 2nd round project. \u00a0His <a href=\"http:\/\/www.milb.com\/milb\/stats\/stats.jsp?pos=OF&amp;sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=543329\">numbers have been increasing<\/a> as he reportedly is learning the game better. \u00a0I suspect the team protects him to protect their investment.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Danny Rosenbaum<\/strong>; the &#8220;Ace&#8221; of Harrisburg this year, and our furthest advanced legitimate starter prospect, Rosenbaum projects more like a\u00a0<strong>Tommy Milone<\/strong> or\u00a0<strong>John Lannan<\/strong> right now. \u00a0I&#8217;d suspect that the team may protect him, thinking that someone could stash him as a loogy for a year. \u00a0I&#8217;m not sure his ceiling is in the Nats rotation, but he could be a good trade candidate. \u00a0He hit the DL late last year, which makes it slightly less likely that a team would take a flier on him, but his track record warrants his mention.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Patrick McCoy<\/strong>: he just repeated AA and despite already being Rule-5 eligible last \u00a0year he <a href=\"http:\/\/www.milb.com\/milb\/stats\/stats.jsp?pos=P&amp;sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=519003\">improved on his numbers in 2012<\/a>. \u00a0Why protect him? \u00a0Because this team needs a Loogy, and McCoy may be the leading lefty reliever in our upper-minor leagues.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Jeff Kobernus<\/strong> has put up consistent numbers his whole career, but still projects as a power-less middle infielder. \u00a0Would the team protect him, thinking he has a chance to become the next <strong>Steve Lombardozzi<\/strong>? \u00a0Would the team protect him just to protect their bonus money?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Weaker candidates to protect<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Trevor Holder<\/span>: a 3rd round pick roundly criticized at the time of being an underslot money saver, Holder had <a href=\"http:\/\/www.milb.com\/milb\/stats\/stats.jsp?sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=457774\">decent peripherals<\/a> in high-A and AA this year. \u00a0But, he doesn&#8217;t seem to project as the dominant right-hander he was in college and seems likely to top out as an org-arm. \u00a0Despite his 3rd round pedigree, I don&#8217;t see a team taking a flier on him in rule-5.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Pat Lehman<\/strong>; a local guy (GWU), but despite having good numbers in AAA he remains a very common commodity; a right handed minor league reliever. \u00a0Even if he&#8217;s drafted, it isn&#8217;t that great a loss because of the depth we already have at the position.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Paul Demny<\/strong>; despite making the AFL team this year, I don&#8217;t quite see Demny as being a draft risk. \u00a0His ERA this year and in years past has been substandard.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Robert Gilliam<\/strong>; only really mentioned here since we just acquired him last off-season in the <strong>Gio Gonzalez<\/strong> trade and the team probably doesn&#8217;t want to lose him, but his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.milb.com\/milb\/stats\/stats.jsp?pos=P&amp;sid=milb&amp;t=p_pbp&amp;pid=571707\">6.37 ERA in AA makes<\/a> it extremely unlikely someone grabs him in the Rule 5.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Erik Davis<\/strong>: technically rule-5 eligible last year, he stepped up this year and put up pretty dominant AA numbers. \u00a0As with Lehman, he&#8217;s a righty reliever in AA so the odds of his getting picked (or protected) seem slim.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Players not worth protecting for various Reasons<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Now, there&#8217;s a bunch of &#8220;good names&#8221; that are Rule 5 eligible in our system but who are not listed here, including guys who toiled as high as AA last year. \u00a0Anyone not listed here is probably not going to be missed, even if they are drafted. \u00a0Plus, the likelihood of a decent pitcher prospect who has never played above A-ball being drafted in rule-5 is extemely slim. \u00a0Most of the guys above are mentioned because of their capability to be &#8220;stashed&#8221; on a MLB roster. \u00a0This includes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>last year&#8217;s departures <strong>Brad Meyers<\/strong> (coming off injury) and <strong>Erik Komatsu<\/strong> (clearly been passed on the organizational OF depth chart). \u00a0Yes they got picked last year, but both got returned and I&#8217;d be surprised to see them picked again.<\/li>\n<li>higher profile draft picks <strong>Josh Smoker<\/strong> and <strong>Jack McGeary<\/strong>: neither has advanced far enough in their careers to realistically stick with a MLB team.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Jeff Mandel<\/strong> may be an accomplished AAA pitcher, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s anything more than that.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Rob Wort<\/strong> hasn&#8217;t advanced far enough up the chain to be considered.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Justin Bloxom<\/strong> could be a dark horse prospect next year, but only made it to AA the second half of last year.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Who would I protect, If I was the GM<\/strong>? \u00a0I&#8217;d protect Karns, Hood, Rosenbaum and McCoy right now, filling the four current openings on the roster. \u00a0If a move needs to be made (a FA signing or a trade), then you make one-for-one DFAs or non-tenders as needed. \u00a0You have 40-man room; might as well use it. \u00a0My order of protection is probably Karns, McCoy, Hood and Rosenbaum (from most important to least important to protect). \u00a0Odds are that the team only opts to protect a couple of guys to give immediate roster flexibility heading into the winter meetings.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Part III:<\/span> <strong>Might the Nats participate in the Rule-5 draft this year<\/strong><\/span>?<\/p>\n<p>This year&#8217;s Rule 5 draft has some intrigue for the team; unlike last year, we have definite holes in the bullpen and on the roster which can be &#8220;more easily&#8221; filled via the Rule 5 draft. \u00a0We need a lefty out of the bullpen, we need a backup middle infielder and we need a 5th starter. \u00a0The odds of finding the latter in the rule 5 draft are very slim, but the odds of finding one of the first two are better. \u00a0If you look at the last couple of Rule 5 drafts, nearly every player drafted is either a Pitcher or a Middle Infielder. \u00a0Most teams carry a second backup middle infielder who gets very little playing time, ideal for &#8220;hiding&#8221; rule 5 draftees. \u00a0And of course every bullpen has a &#8220;mop up&#8221; guy who pitches once or twice a week in low-leverage situations, also a great place to hide a rule-5 guy.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, the &#8220;penalty&#8221; for drafting a guy and returning him is pretty small in baseball terms: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rule_5_draft\">$25,000 net<\/a> (it costs $50,000 fee to select a player, then if you &#8220;offer&#8221; them back the original team has to refund $25,000 of that fee). \u00a0 So I&#8217;d be surprised honestly if the team didn&#8217;t roll the dice with at least a flier on either of the two needs mentioned above.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not a big fan of the Rule 5 draft any longer. \u00a0It was created as a way to liberate players who were stuck in farm systems behind established players (much the way that minor league free agency rules attempted to do the same), but now seems to be a cheap method of teams to get an extended tryout of players. \u00a0I&#8217;ve now come to believe that the draft is not necessarily in the best interests of the players or the teams; just read below for the organizational transaction chaos that followed players. \u00a0It also seems like a high number of players who get drafted in rule-5 immediately suffer season-ending injuries; coincidence or correlation? \u00a0If you&#8217;re a rule-5 drafted arm, the drafting team knows you must perform at a MLB level to stay in the organization. \u00a0Wouldn&#8217;t that imply there&#8217;s added pressure to compete, leading to overthrowing and arm injuries? \u00a0Plus, teams that lose players often get them returned damaged and having lost a season of service time. \u00a0I suppose players are the ones that are pro-Rule 5 draft, in that it immediately means a promotion to the 40-man roster, MLB service time and higher pay.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, it makes for a good reason to write a 2,500 word blog post, and it may result in our team having new prospects to evaluate and dream about, so perhaps I protest too much.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In part I on this topic yesterday, we talked about the Nats Rule 5 draft history. \u00a0Today we&#8217;ll talk about Parts II and III: who the Nats may think about protecting ahead of this year&#8217;s Rule 5 draft, and what the team may be seeking if they participated and drafted a player or two in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,5,2039],"tags":[111,185,72,974,884,851,391,61,436,385,206,392,89,112,39,65,1247,850,301,166,129,196,63,908,57,67,672,142,176,34,55],"class_list":["post-5270","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-draft","category-natsgeneral","category-rule-5","tag-adam-kilgore","tag-anthony-rendon","tag-brad-meyers","tag-brian-oliver","tag-carlos-rivero","tag-danny-rosenbaum","tag-destin-hood","tag-erik-davis","tag-erik-komatsu","tag-gio-gonzalez","tag-jack-mcgeary","tag-jeff-kobernus","tag-jeff-mandel","tag-jesus-flores","tag-john-lannan","tag-josh-smoker","tag-justin-bloxom","tag-luke-erickson","tag-mark-zuckerman","tag-matthew-purke","tag-mike-rizzo","tag-nathan-karns","tag-pat-lehman","tag-patrick-mccoy","tag-paul-demny","tag-rob-wort","tag-robert-gilliam","tag-steve-lombardozzi","tag-tom-gorzelanny","tag-tommy-milone","tag-trevor-holder"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5270","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5270"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5270\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7387,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5270\/revisions\/7387"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5270"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5270"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5270"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}