{"id":557,"date":"2011-01-18T18:00:43","date_gmt":"2011-01-18T23:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=557"},"modified":"2013-01-31T15:24:27","modified_gmt":"2013-01-31T20:24:27","slug":"who-comes-off-the-40-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=557","title":{"rendered":"Who comes off the 40-man?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_560\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/IMG_3390-Martin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-560\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-560\" title=\"IMG_3390 Martin\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/IMG_3390-Martin-300x231.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"231\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/IMG_3390-Martin-300x231.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/IMG_3390-Martin-1024x791.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/IMG_3390-Martin.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-560\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">JD Martin&#39;s days could be numbered with the team.  Photo courtesy of natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>1\/19\/11 Update<\/strong>: with the signing of reliever <a href=\"http:\/\/mlb.mlb.com\/news\/article.jsp?ymd=20110119&amp;content_id=16459508&amp;vkey=news_was&amp;c_id=was&amp;partnerId=rss_was\"><strong>Todd Coffey<\/strong><\/a>, the team now appears to be three men over the limit.\u00a0 Oh, and about 2 hours later the signing of infielder <a href=\"http:\/\/voices.washingtonpost.com\/nationalsjournal\/2011\/01\/nationals_sign_jerry_hairston.html?wprss=nationalsjournal\"><strong>Jerry Hairston<\/strong><\/a> now requiring four guys to be dropped or traded.\u00a0 One player has been cleared off the 40-man; the predicted <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mlbtraderumors.com\/2011\/01\/nationals-release-jd-martin.html\">JD Martin given his outright release<\/a> unfortunately later in the afternoon.<\/p>\n<p>Unless I&#8217;ve forgotten how to count, and unless I really do not understand the 40-man roster rules, the Nationals have been over the limit for nearly two weeks now.\u00a0 They signed <strong>Adam LaRoche<\/strong> on 1\/4\/11, then made the announcement official on <a href=\"http:\/\/washington.nationals.mlb.com\/team\/transactions.jsp?c_id=was#month=1&amp;year=2011&amp;team_id=120\">1\/7\/11<\/a>.\u00a0 <strong>Answer<\/strong>: per <a href=\"http:\/\/natsinsider.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/rizzo-on-gorzelanny-hairston.html\">Zuckerman&#8217;s posting<\/a> today, &#8220;corresponding [40-man roster] moves don&#8217;t have to be made until the contract for the new  player is formally processed at MLB headquarters in New York.&#8221;\u00a0 LaRoche&#8217;s contract didn&#8217;t hit NY til today, so the Martin release is the corresponding move.\u00a0 Still 3 to go.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, here we are on 1\/19\/11 and no corresponding move has occurred yet.\u00a0 The Nationals&#8217; <a href=\"http:\/\/washington.nationals.mlb.com\/team\/roster_active.jsp?c_id=was\">40-man roster<\/a> has been above 40 ever since.\u00a0 I believe teams have to make immediate moves but do not have to make them public; a player could have been designated for assignment on 1\/7\/11, at which point the team has 10 days to actually decide what to do with him.\u00a0 So perhaps tomorrow 1\/19\/11 (since we had a holiday mixed in there?) we&#8217;ll have an answer.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, <strong>Tom Gorzelanny <\/strong>will also require a corresponding move, since none of the 3 players traded for him were on the 40-man to start with.\u00a0 With his addition (yes the trade has been announced but it will not be official until all physicals are passed) we&#8217;ll be at 42 (43 with the Coffey signing).<\/p>\n<p>So, who on the current 40-man roster is next to go?\u00a0 If we need to clear four spots without a major trade, then my initial guesses are:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Justin Maxwell<\/strong>: I know that Maxwell is a local and is a fan favorite, but the fact remains that we now have at least 5 outfielders with major league time last year (Werth, Ankiel, Morgan, Bernadina, and Morse) that seem to be ahead of Maxwell on the depth chart, plus a 6th outfielder prospect who will get a look prior to Maxwell at this point (CBrown).\u00a0 He&#8217;s never produced at the MLB level and is now far too old to be considered a prospect.<\/p>\n<p>2. <strong>J.D. Martin: <\/strong>Martin is probably the right-handed starter version of Maxwell.\u00a0 He&#8217;s fallen down the depth chart, his name isn&#8217;t being mentioned as even competing for a rotation spot out of spring, and the argument can be made that he&#8217;s not in the top 5 players to make the AAA rotation.\u00a0 He&#8217;s always had ok numbers when he&#8217;s pitched in the majors but in a power-arm league, spots for soft-tossing slight-of-frame right handers are limited.<\/p>\n<p>3. The third and fourth spots are tougher.\u00a0 I think #3 may end up being someone like <strong>Luis Atilano<\/strong>.\u00a0 Mediocre <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/a\/atilalu01.shtml\">MLB numbers<\/a> in 2010, coming off of injury, he probably can sneak through waivers as <strong>Chico<\/strong> did and get assigned to AAA to try to get back.\u00a0 He&#8217;ll be 26, slightly older than you want in a prospect, and he&#8217;s clearly not in the MLB rotation battle for 2011.<\/p>\n<p>4. <strong>Atahualpa Severino<\/strong>: he has no mlb experience and is behind <strong>Slaten <\/strong>in the loogy battle right now.\u00a0 However, other teams may see that we just added him to the 40-man last year and might take a look.\u00a0 He&#8217;s a bit old for a prospect with no MLB time and he could slip through waivers.<\/p>\n<p>This 4th spot is a stretch though, and I think honestly a better way to clear space may be a set of prospects trade for a veteran.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t see at this point how <strong>Morse<\/strong> or <strong>Detwiler<\/strong> makes the 25-man roster, so perhaps we should look instead to package these guys for a player.<\/p>\n<p>Other candidates (and their reasons for keeping them over Atilano and Martin right now) could be <strong>Mock <\/strong>(lively fastball, good stuff and a favorite of the organization), <strong>Martis<\/strong> (still young and still could prosper),\u00a0<strong> <\/strong>and <strong>Marrero<\/strong> (still too early to give up on him; needs one more season to prove he belongs but he&#8217;s clearly blocked for 2 years by LaRoche; could be a trade candidate).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1\/19\/11 Update: with the signing of reliever Todd Coffey, the team now appears to be three men over the limit.\u00a0 Oh, and about 2 hours later the signing of infielder Jerry Hairston now requiring four guys to be dropped or traded.\u00a0 One player has been cleared off the 40-man; the predicted JD Martin given his [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[184,141,124,80,90,99,234,915,74,301,87,136,51,76,172,176],"class_list":["post-557","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-natsgeneral","tag-adam-laroche","tag-atahualpa-severino","tag-chris-marrero","tag-doug-slaten","tag-garrett-mock","tag-jd-martin","tag-jerry-hairston","tag-justin-maxwell","tag-luis-atilano","tag-mark-zuckerman","tag-matt-chico","tag-michael-morse","tag-ross-detwiler","tag-shairon-martis","tag-todd-coffey","tag-tom-gorzelanny"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/557","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=557"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/557\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":559,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/557\/revisions\/559"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=557"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=557"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=557"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}