{"id":6388,"date":"2013-04-09T13:05:56","date_gmt":"2013-04-09T17:05:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=6388"},"modified":"2013-10-10T13:27:22","modified_gmt":"2013-10-10T17:27:22","slug":"would-you-rather-have-houston-or-durhams-rotation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=6388","title":{"rendered":"Would you rather have Houston or Durham&#8217;s rotation?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=5447\">Pitching Rotation Rankings post<\/a> (published on January 7th 2013) \u00a0ended up with poor Houston ranked as the 30th best rotation heading into the 2013 season. \u00a0They&#8217;re heading into the 2013 season with this rotation of guys:<\/p>\n<table width=\"526\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"34\" \/>\n<col width=\"98\" \/>\n<col width=\"40\" \/>\n<col width=\"354\" \/> <\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"34\" height=\"20\"><strong><em>Rank<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"98\"><strong><em>Name<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"40\"><strong><em>Age<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"354\"><strong><em>2012 Stats<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">1<\/td>\n<td>Bud Norris<\/td>\n<td>28<\/td>\n<td>(MLB Hou) 7-13, 4.65 ERA, 1.37 whip, 86 ERA+, 4.23 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2<\/td>\n<td>Lucas Harrell<\/td>\n<td>28<\/td>\n<td>(MLB Hou) 11-11, 3.76 ERA, 1.36 whip, 106 ERA+, 3.75 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">3<\/td>\n<td>Philip Humbel<\/td>\n<td>30<\/td>\n<td>(MLB CWS) 5-5 6.44 ERA, 1.54 whip, 68 ERA+, 5.77 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">4<\/td>\n<td>Erik Bedard<\/td>\n<td>34<\/td>\n<td>(MLB Pit) 7-14, 5.01 ERA, 1.47 whip, 74 ERA+, 4.07 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">5<\/td>\n<td>Brad Peacock<\/td>\n<td>25<\/td>\n<td>(AAA Sac) 12-9, 6.01 ERA, 1.58 whip, 4.26 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>There&#8217;s a couple of decent possibilities here: Norris looked pretty good opening day and Harrell&#8217;s numbers last year weren&#8217;t bad. \u00a0The other three though? \u00a0Phew. \u00a0Even Nats favorite Brad Peacock isn&#8217;t that convincing right now as a starter, based on his numbers in the PCL last year.<\/p>\n<p>Now, here&#8217;s Tampa Bay AAA affiliate Durham Bull&#8217;s opening day 2013 rotation:<\/p>\n<table width=\"510\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"46\" \/>\n<col width=\"123\" \/>\n<col width=\"40\" \/>\n<col width=\"300\" \/> <\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"46\" height=\"20\"><strong><em>Rank<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"123\"><strong><em>Name<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"40\"><strong><em>Age<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"287\"><strong><em>2012 Stats<\/em><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">1<\/td>\n<td>Chris Archer<\/td>\n<td>24<\/td>\n<td>(AAA Dur): 7-9, 3.66 era, 1.258 whip, 3.25 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">2<\/td>\n<td>Jake Odorizzi<\/td>\n<td>23<\/td>\n<td>(AAA Oma): 11-3, 2.93 era, 1.35 whip, 4.19 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">3<\/td>\n<td>Alex Colome<\/td>\n<td>25<\/td>\n<td>(AA Birm) 8-3, 3.48 ERA, 1.37 whip, 2.91 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">4<\/td>\n<td>Mike Montgomery<\/td>\n<td>23<\/td>\n<td>(AAA Oma): 3-6, 5.89 ERA, 1.67 whip, 4.95 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">5<\/td>\n<td>Alex Torres<\/td>\n<td>25<\/td>\n<td>(AAA Dur): 3-7, 7-30 era, 1.93 whip, 4.56 fip<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Tampa&#8217;s AAA rotation includes <strong>Keith Law<\/strong>&#8216;s #53, #68 and #81 <a href=\"http:\/\/insider.espn.go.com\/mlb\/story\/_\/id\/8891538\/mlb-top-100-prospects-2013-jurickson-profar-dylan-bundy-more\">top prospects for 2013<\/a> in Archer, Odorizzi and Colome respectively. \u00a0Montgomery was Kansas City&#8217;s #1 prospect for quite a while and has struggled in AAA, but he reached AAA as a 21 year old in 2011. \u00a0Torres may switch places with a 6-year ML FA signing (the Bulls do have former Nat favorite <strong>J.D. Martin<\/strong> on their roster among other candidates) but the strength of this group is the first four guys.<\/p>\n<p>Given that Tampa is notoriously slow in bringing along its starting pitcher prospects, its safe to assume that most of these guys would have already matriculated to lesser team&#8217;s rotations (of them only Archer has MLB service time; he got 4 starts and 30 innings late last year). \u00a0 As it stands now, none of them can crack Tampa&#8217;s MLB rotation of <strong>David Price<\/strong>, <strong>Matt Moore<\/strong>, <strong>Jeremy Hellickson<\/strong>, <strong>Alex Cobb<\/strong> and <strong>Roberto Hernandez<\/strong>. \u00a0And this is all AFTER the big Tampa-KC trade which sent two other starters (<strong>James Shields<\/strong> and <strong>Wade Davis<\/strong>) to Kansas City. \u00a0And this doesn&#8217;t include former rotation stalwart <strong>Jeff Niemann<\/strong><strong>, who just had season ending shoulder surgery. <\/strong>Man that&#8217;s a lot of starting pitching depth.<\/p>\n<p>(Side note: Roberto Hernandez is officially &#8220;Roberto (Heredia) Hernandez,&#8221; the artist formerly known as <strong>Fausto Carmona<\/strong>. \u00a0He is also the <a href=\"http:\/\/hardballtalk.nbcsports.com\/2013\/04\/04\/roberto-hernandez-is-first-free-agent-pitcher-to-start-for-rays-since-2005\/\">first Free Agent to start a game for Tampa Bay <\/a>since 2005! \u00a0Just an amazing statistic frankly, and an amazing tribute to Tampa&#8217;s pitching development staff).<\/p>\n<p>So, honestly, which of these starting 5 would you want right now? \u00a0Not on potential, but on the ability to get major league hitters out in 2013?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My Pitching Rotation Rankings post (published on January 7th 2013) \u00a0ended up with poor Houston ranked as the 30th best rotation heading into the 2013 season. \u00a0They&#8217;re heading into the 2013 season with this rotation of guys: Rank Name Age 2012 Stats 1 Bud Norris 28 (MLB Hou) 7-13, 4.65 ERA, 1.37 whip, 86 ERA+, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[1262,1704,1705,35,1676,1263,223,1300,711,1304,49,99,237,239,110,1702,229,1305,1703,1706,240],"class_list":["post-6388","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mlbpitching","tag-alex-cobb","tag-alex-colume","tag-alex-torres","tag-brad-peacock","tag-bud-norris","tag-chris-archer","tag-david-price","tag-erik-bedard","tag-fausto-carmona","tag-jake-odorizzi","tag-james-shields","tag-jd-martin","tag-jeff-niemann","tag-jeremy-hellickson","tag-keith-law","tag-lucas-harrell","tag-matt-moore","tag-mike-montgomery","tag-philip-humbrel","tag-roberto-hernandez","tag-wade-davis"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6388","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6388"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6388\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7941,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6388\/revisions\/7941"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6388"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6388"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6388"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}