{"id":6393,"date":"2013-04-04T13:37:06","date_gmt":"2013-04-04T17:37:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=6393"},"modified":"2015-03-02T14:38:04","modified_gmt":"2015-03-02T19:38:04","slug":"one-more-reason-i-hate-the-war-stat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=6393","title":{"rendered":"One more reason I hate the WAR stat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As pointed out in this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hardballtimes.com\/main\/article\/fip-game-score-and-evaluating-starting-pitching\/\">Hardballtimes story<\/a> by <strong>Matt Hunter<\/strong>, here&#8217;s two opening-day pitching lines:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/statss.aspx?playerid=5551&amp;position=P\">Matt Harrison<\/a>: 5.2 IP, 6 R, 5 ER, 9 K, 3 BB, 0 HR, 0.2 WAR<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/statss.aspx?playerid=10131&amp;position=P\">Stephen Strasburg<\/a>: 7 IP, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 K, 0 BB, 0 HR, 0.2 WAR<\/p>\n<p>Wait. \u00a0Strasburg&#8217;s 7 shutout innings in which he only allowed 3 base runners is somehow considered an &#8220;equal&#8221; performance in terms of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/leaders.aspx?pos=all&amp;stats=sta&amp;lg=all&amp;qual=y&amp;type=8&amp;season=2013&amp;month=0&amp;season1=2013&amp;ind=0&amp;team=0&amp;rost=0&amp;age=0&amp;filter=&amp;players=0\">FanGraphs WAR<\/a> to Harrison&#8217;s 5 2\/3 inning 5 earned run debacle??<\/p>\n<p>The reason why (as explained much better in the Hunter link) is because Fangraph&#8217;s WAR is based on FIP, and despite Harrison&#8217;s line and despite the fact that Strasburg didn&#8217;t give up any runs Harrison&#8217;s FIP was actually lower than Strasburg&#8217;s for the day. \u00a0FIP only measures Ks, BBs and Homers, and because Harrison had many more K&#8217;s on the day his FIP is better.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s my problem; how can you possibly trust a statistic that is this blatantly wrong on an individual game level? \u00a0Both WAR and FIP accumulate over the course of a season to arrive at a measure for a player&#8217;s performance, yet clearly they both have significant individual-game issues. \u00a0And as Hunter points out (paraphrased), \u00a0&#8220;if you can&#8217;t trust a stat on a per-game basis, you can&#8217;t *really* trust the stat on a full season level.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I point this out because there are far, far too many stat-heavy baseball writers out there who will literally call you an idiot if you dare use &#8220;old time&#8221; statistics to measure a player&#8217;s season &#8230; but who also use the likes of WAR and FIP as the be all-end all replacements. \u00a0And that&#8217;s where I have a problem.<\/p>\n<p>And all of this is to say nothing of the heavy reliance of defensive stats on WAR, defensive stats which didn&#8217;t exist 10 years ago (so how &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad&#8221; are our historical players?) and defensive stats which are admittedly flawed when it comes to doing what they&#8217;re supposed to do unless every player stands in exactly the same spot at every position on every play all year? \u00a0If your team employs lots of infield shifts (like say a Tampa Bay), guess what? \u00a0Your UZR rating looks fantastic. \u00a0If you play in a big pitcher&#8217;s park and have a fly-ball pitcher on the mound (think San Francisco and <strong>Matt Cain<\/strong>), your UZR looks awesome as you chase down lazy flyball after lazy flyball. \u00a0Defensive stats can&#8217;t take into account first basemen digging out throws or measure nearly any component of catching defense outside of the basic counting stats we already had (errors, caught stealing, passed balls).<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know what the solution is. \u00a0But I know it isn&#8217;t to claim that WAR is the ultimate player measurement stat that lots of people believe it to be.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As pointed out in this Hardballtimes story by Matt Hunter, here&#8217;s two opening-day pitching lines: Matt Harrison: 5.2 IP, 6 R, 5 ER, 9 K, 3 BB, 0 HR, 0.2 WAR Stephen Strasburg: 7 IP, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 K, 0 BB, 0 HR, 0.2 WAR Wait. \u00a0Strasburg&#8217;s 7 shutout innings in which he [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[317,303,1682,38],"class_list":["post-6393","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mlbpitching","tag-matt-cain","tag-matt-harrison","tag-matt-hunter","tag-stephen-strasburg"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6393","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6393"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6393\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10299,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6393\/revisions\/10299"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6393"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6393"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6393"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}