{"id":6688,"date":"2013-05-31T07:01:37","date_gmt":"2013-05-31T11:01:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=6688"},"modified":"2013-09-24T13:30:23","modified_gmt":"2013-09-24T17:30:23","slug":"a-forkball-after-my-own-heart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=6688","title":{"rendered":"A forkball after my own heart"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_6690\" style=\"width: 160px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/CoelloRobert-wiki-flickr-james_in_to.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6690\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-6690\" title=\"CoelloRobert wiki flickr james_in_to\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/CoelloRobert-wiki-flickr-james_in_to-150x150.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-6690\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robert Coello throws a very &#8220;old school&#8221; pitch. Photo wiki\/flickr via james_in_to account.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Thanks to <strong>Rob Neyer<\/strong> for this article, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseballnation.com\/2013\/5\/16\/4337542\/robert-coello-forkball-knuckleball-history-pitch\">posted 5\/16\/13<\/a> (and subsequently <strong>Jeff Passan<\/strong> in this <a href=\"http:\/\/sports.yahoo.com\/news\/angels-pitcher-robert-coello-s-mystery-pitch-leaves-hitters-muttering-under-their-breath-185910466.html\">5\/28\/13 article<\/a> and this <strong>Ted Berg<\/strong> USAToday\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ftw.usatoday.com\/2013\/05\/angels-pitcher-baffling-hitters-and-catchers-with-new-old-pitch\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomSports-TopStories+%28Sports+-+Top+Stories%29\">article on 5\/29\/13<\/a>)\u00a0about <strong>Robert Coello<\/strong>, a journeyman hurler currently with the Los Angeles Angels who throws what one executive calls a &#8220;Knuckle-Forkball&#8221; but what in reality is an &#8220;Original Forkball.&#8221; \u00a0Not a &#8220;Split Fingered Fastball&#8221; mind you, but a true-on Forkball. \u00a0Neyer then goes into some research he did with <strong>Bill James<\/strong> on the pitch and has a pretty interesting history on this very rare pitch.<\/p>\n<p>Neyer&#8217;s post has video of the pitch as it comes out of his hand (as does the Usatoday article) and indeed the ball knuckles and dives like a knuckler. \u00a0He only threw one forkball in his 5\/15\/13 outing but has thrown more than a few since and is getting some national media notice.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brooksbaseball.net\/pfxVB\/pfx.php?month=5&amp;day=15&amp;year=2013&amp;game=gid_2013_05_15_kcamlb_anamlb_1%2F&amp;pitchSel=445193&amp;prevGame=gid_2013_05_15_kcamlb_anamlb_1%2F&amp;prevDate=515\">Pitch F\/X data<\/a> for Coello&#8217;s 5\/15\/13 outing. \u00a0They classified this pitch as a &#8220;FS,&#8221; pitch f\/x lingo for &#8220;Fastball-Split&#8221; or a splitter. \u00a0He threw it at 79.5mph. \u00a0Since then, he&#8217;s thrown (I guess) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=1149&amp;position=P\">11 more Forkballs<\/a> (now classified in Pitch F\/X as a &#8220;FO&#8221;) at an average of 79.2mph. \u00a0By way of comparison, <strong>R.A. Dickey<\/strong>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=1245&amp;position=P\">average knuckleball velocity in 2013<\/a> has been 75.3mph. \u00a0And Dickey&#8217;s knuckleball is considered so effective because he throws it with such pace (<strong>Tim Wakefield<\/strong> only threw his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/pitchfx.aspx?playerid=219&amp;position=P\">65-66mph<\/a> for the last few years of his career). \u00a0Imagine if Coello can command this pitch and throw it consistently and frequently; he&#8217;d have a chance of combining a Dickey-esque fast knuckleball with his 91mph fastball. \u00a0That could be quite a combination.<\/p>\n<p>So, why is this guy so interesting to me? \u00a0Because in my own abbreviated amateur baseball pitching career, I threw the same pitch! \u00a0Somehow over the years screwing around while warming up as a middle infielder I discovered this pitch; you jam the baseball between your index and middle fingers and then throw the ball such that it &#8220;pops&#8221; out of your hand (it will even make a popping noise, not unlike a soft snapping fingers noise) and begins knuckling towards its target. \u00a0It definitely is not a diving\/sinking split fingered fastball motion; it knuckles in. \u00a0You can throw it with some pace; you throw it with the same motion and intensity as a fastball, except that it gets hung up in the webbing of your fingers and knuckles out. \u00a0It is relatively easy to control, especially if you throw over the top and just &#8220;aim&#8221; the ball at the middle of the plate. \u00a0I used it as a 3rd pitch but one outing in particular it was moving so much that my catcher called nothing but forkballs.<\/p>\n<p>I always called it a forkball, but figured it knuckled instead of diving down like a typical split-fingered fastball because I wasn&#8217;t throwing it at the pace of a professional pitcher. \u00a0Now as it turns out, it looks like I was just throwing a &#8220;throw back&#8221; pitch rarely seen in the professional ranks. \u00a0Cool.<\/p>\n<p>This world needs more Forkball pitchers!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Post-post update<\/strong>: Fangraphs\u00a0<strong>Eno Sarris<\/strong> had a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fangraphs.com\/blogs\/robert-coellos-fastball-is-thankful-for-his-forkleball\/\">great article on him 9\/23\/13<\/a>, showing multiple gifs of the pitch, as well as noting that Coello now has a top-30 wFB pitch thanks to the uniqueness of the forkball.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thanks to Rob Neyer for this article, posted 5\/16\/13 (and subsequently Jeff Passan in this 5\/28\/13 article and this Ted Berg USAToday\u00a0article on 5\/29\/13)\u00a0about Robert Coello, a journeyman hurler currently with the Los Angeles Angels who throws what one executive calls a &#8220;Knuckle-Forkball&#8221; but what in reality is an &#8220;Original Forkball.&#8221; \u00a0Not a &#8220;Split Fingered [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[635,2007,442,781,364,1777,1804,226,1016],"class_list":["post-6688","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mlbpitching","tag-bill-james","tag-eno-sarris","tag-jeff-passan","tag-ra-dickey","tag-rob-neyer","tag-robert-coello","tag-ted-berg","tag-tim-wakefield","tag-todd-boss"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6688","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6688"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6688\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7737,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6688\/revisions\/7737"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6688"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6688"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6688"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}