{"id":8062,"date":"2013-11-01T07:57:30","date_gmt":"2013-11-01T11:57:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=8062"},"modified":"2014-09-25T10:17:02","modified_gmt":"2014-09-25T14:17:02","slug":"will-the-cardinals-get-the-same-grief-we-got-over-not-using-shelby-miller","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=8062","title":{"rendered":"Will the Cardinals get the same grief we got over not using Shelby Miller?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_8063\" style=\"width: 160px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/MillerShelby-2013Cards-unk-via-missourinet.com_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8063\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-8063\" alt=\"Miller threw a grand total of one inning in the post season.  Photo unk via missourinet.com\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/MillerShelby-2013Cards-unk-via-missourinet.com_-150x150.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-8063\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Miller threw a grand total of one inning in the post season. Photo unk via missourinet.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The common narrative surrounding the Washington Nationals after their 2012 NLDS exit was, and still is to this day, is a story of &#8220;arrogance&#8221; on the behalf of\u00a0<strong>Mike Rizzo<\/strong> for deigning to protect\u00a0<strong>Stephen Strasburg<\/strong> and shutting him down prior to the playoffs. \u00a0More than a few blow-hard sports writers on local and national stages postulated that the Nationals lost that series &#8220;because they didn&#8217;t have Strasburg.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Cut to 2013: St. Louis&#8217; year-long #2 starter\u00a0<strong>Shelby Miller<\/strong>, a guy who had 31 starts with a 3.06 ERA\/119 ERA+ and a 15-9 record, was removed from the playoff rotation and tossed\u00a0a grand total of 1 inning this off-season. \u00a0He threw one inning of mop-up duty against the Pirates on October 4th in a 7-1 loss. \u00a0Instead the team gave those starts to #5 starter\u00a0<strong>Lance Lynn<\/strong>, who rewarded the team with 2 losses in his 3 post-season starts and a 5.19 ERA in 17 1\/3 innings.<\/p>\n<p>For all the grief the 2012 Nationals got for voluntarily sitting<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Strasburg\u00a0&#8230; why has there not been similar outrage for the Cardinals removal of their #2 starter from their post-season plans? \u00a0 Where is the outrage facing the Cards&#8217; management that\u00a0Rizzo\u00a0took for sitting Strasburg and &#8220;costing&#8221; his team in the playoffs?<\/p>\n<p>The Cardinal&#8217;s excuse for sitting Miller was that he &#8220;was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbssports.com\/mlb\/eye-on-baseball\/24092595\/wheres-cardinals-phenom-shelby-miller\">tiring down the stretch<\/a>.&#8221; \u00a0To which I say B.S.; in five September starts <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/gl.cgi?id=millesh01&amp;t=p&amp;year=\">he LOWERED his seasonal ERA<\/a>. \u00a0This was clearly an innings-limit shutdown. \u00a0Maybe they&#8217;re the smart ones for just never SAYING it was a shutdown. \u00a0Miller himself apparently was unaware of the reason, being quoted recently as &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/hardballtalk.nbcsports.com\/2013\/10\/31\/shelby-miller-is-confused-about-why-the-cardinals-never-used-him\/\">not knowing<\/a>&#8221; why he didn&#8217;t pitch in the post-season.<\/p>\n<p>Strasburg was shutdown because he was recovering from an injury. \u00a0Miller was shutdown because the team subscribed to (in the minds of many critics) an arbitrary and unproven innings limit theory for starting pitchers. \u00a0 What I don&#8217;t understand is why the two situations aren&#8217;t being treated as identical issues by those know-it-alls who so eviscorated the Nats for daring to protect a guy coming back from injury. \u00a0Is it simply a fame factor? \u00a0Strasburg clearly is more famous than Miller, therefore the situation was followed more closely in 2012? \u00a0Is it a factor of the Nats and Rizzo being the &#8220;new guys&#8221; and being ripe for criticism, while the Cardinals &#8220;know how it is done&#8221; and therefore get a pass in the national media?<\/p>\n<p>I posed this question in a chat on Fangraphs and got the following response, &#8220;<em>St. Louis didn&#8217;t lose the World Series due to lack of pitching<\/em>.&#8221; \u00a0Ok. \u00a0Not the point; answer the damn question. \u00a0I could say the same thing about Washington&#8217;s loss in 2012; they certainly didn&#8217;t lose that game or series because of a lack of starting pitching &#8230; they lost that game because their bullpen couldn&#8217;t hold a 3-run lead and their closer couldn&#8217;t hold a 2-run lead at home in the deciding game. \u00a0 You can play the &#8220;what-if-they-had-Strasburg&#8221; game for 2012 all you want; the fact is that the Nats were in a position to win the series and their closer blew it. \u00a0Can you say the same for St. Louis? \u00a0 Don&#8217;t you think St. Louis would rather have had Shelby Miller on the mound in the pivotal game 4, which with a win would have given them an almost insurmountable 3 games to 1 lead in the series? \u00a0 Instead Lynn coughed up 3 runs in 5+ innings, the Cards never have the lead, and Boston evened the series and regained home-field advantage.<\/p>\n<p>It just frustrates me, the different treatment of the two franchises in these similar situations. \u00a0I readily admit that I&#8217;m defensive about pitcher shutdowns in general because I support the protection of young arms, I believe in innings management, and I believe both teams in the end did the right thing. \u00a0I talked about this in a post called &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=7226\">Innings Limits and Media Hypocrisy<\/a>&#8221; in this space and (correctly) predicted that Miller would have shutdown issues towards the end of 2013. \u00a0I&#8217;m also defensive because I feel the Nats got a really raw deal in terms of the narrative, getting killed for trying to put a player&#8217;s health ahead of a short-term team goal.<\/p>\n<p>I think the Cards had the right solution; shut him down, lie about it to the media, and go on with life. \u00a0A good road-map for Rizzo going forward, were he to run into this situation again.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The common narrative surrounding the Washington Nationals after their 2012 NLDS exit was, and still is to this day, is a story of &#8220;arrogance&#8221; on the behalf of\u00a0Mike Rizzo for deigning to protect\u00a0Stephen Strasburg and shutting him down prior to the playoffs. \u00a0More than a few blow-hard sports writers on local and national stages postulated [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,2036],"tags":[897,129,1333,38],"class_list":["post-8062","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mlbpitching","category-post-season","tag-lance-lynn","tag-mike-rizzo","tag-shelby-miller","tag-stephen-strasburg"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8062","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8062"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8062\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9799,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8062\/revisions\/9799"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8062"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8062"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8062"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}