{"id":8128,"date":"2013-11-15T07:16:55","date_gmt":"2013-11-15T12:16:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=8128"},"modified":"2014-11-13T09:02:44","modified_gmt":"2014-11-13T14:02:44","slug":"repost-why-didnt-carlos-gomez-get-more-nl-mvp-support","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=8128","title":{"rendered":"Repost: Why didn&#8217;t Carlos Gomez get more NL MVP support??"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_7852\" style=\"width: 160px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/GomezCarlos-swinging-Denis-Poroy-getty-images-via-zimbio.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7852\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-7852\" alt=\"Why didn't Carlos Gomez getting the same attention for MVP that Mike Trout gets?  Photo Denis Poroy\/Getty Images via zimbio.com\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/GomezCarlos-swinging-Denis-Poroy-getty-images-via-zimbio-150x150.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7852\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Why didn&#8217;t Carlos Gomez getting the same attention for MVP that Mike Trout gets? Photo Denis Poroy\/Getty Images via zimbio.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p>[<strong>Editor&#8217;s Note<\/strong>: I posted this initially on\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/?p=7851\">October 29th, 2013<\/a>,\u00a0and didn&#8217;t get a SINGLE comment. \u00a0Maybe it got lost in the World Series hoopla; maybe all the readers of this blog were taking a post-season Nats break. \u00a0I&#8217;m reposting this and changing all the cases to past tense in the wake of <a href=\"http:\/\/mlb.si.com\/2013\/11\/14\/mvp-award-winners-miguel-cabrera-andrew-mccutchen\/\">11\/14\/13&#8217;s MVP voting<\/a>. \u00a0I&#8217;d like to get some discussion here; if you are an ardent Mike Trout supporter and use WAR as part of your argument, i&#8217;d like to hear your thoughts on this post].<\/p>\n<p>The title of this post says it all. \u00a0It is a simple question.<\/p>\n<p>Brewers break-out star\u00a0<strong>Carlos Gomez<\/strong>\u00a0led the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/leaders\/WAR_bat_leagues.shtml\">NL in bWAR<\/a>\u00a0in 2013. \u00a0Gomez played for a non-playoff team. \u00a0He\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/g\/gomezca01.shtml\">augmented his 24-homer<\/a>\/.506 slugging bat with speed on the basepaths (40 SBs) and plus defense in center (he was just named to\u00a0<strong>Bill James<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.billjamesonline.com\/the_2013_fielding_bible_awards\/\">Fielding Bible Team<\/a>\u00a0as the best defensive Center Fielder in the game and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/g\/gomezca01.shtml\">won a Gold Glove<\/a>). \u00a0Yet Gomez lost out on the MVP award, <a href=\"http:\/\/mlb.si.com\/2013\/11\/14\/mvp-award-winners-miguel-cabrera-andrew-mccutchen\/\">which went to<\/a>\u00a0<strong>Andrew McCutchen<\/strong>, a player who trailed him in the bWAR standings but who played for a playoff team.<\/p>\n<p>Sounds an awful lot like the\u00a0<strong>Mike Trout<\/strong>\/<strong>Miguel Cabrera<\/strong>\u00a0comparison, doesn&#8217;t it?<\/p>\n<p>Gomez didn&#8217;t just lose out; he\u00a0wasn&#8217;t even named a FINALIST for the NL MVP, meaning he wasn&#8217;t even in the top 3 candidates in the NL. \u00a0In fact, Gomez\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/bbwaa.com\/13-nl-mvp\/\">came in NINTH<\/a>! \u00a0He wasn&#8217;t even close to winning despite leading the league in one version of WAR.<\/p>\n<p>Why did nobody talk about Carlos Gomez for the NL MVP? \u00a0In fact, in the litany of post-season award prediction pieces I read, he was never really even mentioned. \u00a0You heard about McCutchen,\u00a0<strong>Clayton<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>Kershaw<\/strong>\u00a0and<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Paul Goldschmidt<\/strong>\u00a0as the top 3 NL candidates, then you heard about guys from the other playoff teams (<b>Yadier Molina\u00a0<\/b>or\u00a0<strong>Matt Carpenter<\/strong>\u00a0from St. Louis,\u00a0<strong>Joey Votto<\/strong>\u00a0from Cincinnati, or\u00a0<strong>Freddie Freeman<\/strong>\u00a0from Atlanta). \u00a0Where&#8217;s Gomez on this list?<\/p>\n<p>If you are a critic of the Miguel Cabrera pick and maintain that Mike Trout deserves the MVP in the AL and use &#8220;WAR&#8221; as a basis for your argument &#8230; then are you similarly arguing that Gomez should have won in the NL MVP right now?<\/p>\n<p>I think the entire Trout-Cabrera argument is tired; I&#8217;m tired of hearing it and I&#8217;m sure people are tired of talking about it. \u00a0The critics of those who support Cabrera for MVP like to talk about the &#8220;narrative&#8221; of the MVP, how the award criteria definition on the ballots seems to imply that the winner &#8220;should&#8221; come from a playoff team. \u00a0But I&#8217;m of the opinion that those who blindly live by the WAR stat and support Trout but do NOT similarly demand support of Gomez are falling victim to their own &#8220;narrative&#8221; as well. \u00a0And that narrative is continued obstinance to a cause without looking up to see what else fits their world-view.<\/p>\n<p>Ask yourself; if you think Trout is the AL MVP (this year or last year) &#8230; then what&#8217;s your argument that Gomez is NOT the NL MVP this year? \u00a0Where&#8217;s all the narrative-driven arguments about how &#8220;you shouldn&#8217;t lose the MVP because your teammates were bad&#8221; or that &#8220;the MVP doesn&#8217;t have to come from a playoff team.&#8221; \u00a0Because if you make those arguments in favor of Trout and not in favor of Gomez, then you&#8217;re a &#8220;narrative hypocrite&#8221; just like someone who says the reverse and supports Cabrera and McCutchen BECAUSE they played on playoff teams.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Editor&#8217;s Note: I posted this initially on\u00a0October 29th, 2013,\u00a0and didn&#8217;t get a SINGLE comment. \u00a0Maybe it got lost in the World Series hoopla; maybe all the readers of this blog were taking a post-season Nats break. \u00a0I&#8217;m reposting this and changing all the cases to past tense in the wake of 11\/14\/13&#8217;s MVP voting. \u00a0I&#8217;d [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2667,6],"tags":[424,635,1924,426,187,592,1183,405,456,1662,1923],"class_list":["post-8128","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-awards","category-nonnatsbaseball","tag-andrew-mccutchen","tag-bill-james","tag-carlos-gomez","tag-clayton-kershaw","tag-freddie-freeman","tag-joey-votto","tag-matt-carpenter","tag-miguel-cabrera","tag-mike-trout","tag-paul-goldschmidt","tag-yadier-molina"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8128","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8128"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8128\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8133,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8128\/revisions\/8133"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8128"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8128"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalsarmrace.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8128"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}