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Matt Harvey; just unlucky
Tanner Roark where have you been all my life?
So, after yet another excellent outing Friday night in Kansas City, Tanner Roark now has 4 wins, a miniscule 1.10 ERA, a ridiculous 349 ERA+ and has pitched 16 innings and only given up 10 hits. By way of comparison, in 12 MLB innings Nathan Karns gave up 17 hits, 6 walks and 10 earned runs. On Friday night he stranded two runners he inherited from the wholly ineffective Gio Gonzalez and then pitched through the 8th inning giving up just one hit against a hot offense who had pounded our 2012 Cy Young candidate.
Tanner Roark, where have you been all my life??
Small sample sizes, yes. But Roark has been effective in 5 of his 6 of his appearances thus far (his worst outing was in his hometown; understandable as his family looked on). He hits corners, he doesn’t walk guys, he works inside, he gets a ton of jams and flairs. He has decent enough velocity and stuff, which is less important than being able to command your pitches. 90mph at the knees on the black is better than 96mph over the middle of the plate (ask Greg Maddux what he thinks of command versus velocity).
Are we looking at a potential 5th starter for 2014? At some point in the off-season we’re going to have this discussion. Clearly the team has more than one viable candidate for a 5th starter. The days of paying Edwin Jackson and Dan Haren tens of millions of dollars to be mediocre-to-ineffective 4th starters looks like it may be over. Ross Detwiler‘s up and down career may put him in jeopardy of losing his rotation spot next spring. At the very least Roark seems to have an inside track on the long-man/spot starter role that just a few weeks ago we thought was Ross Ohlendorf‘s to lose.
Stay tuned; with the Nats out of it September is going to be a great time to feature Roark in a starting role (along with perhaps Karns and maybe even someone like Danny Rosenbaum or even the surprising Caleb Clay) as an audition for 2014.
By way of comparison, in 12 MLB innings Nathan Karns gave up 17 hits, 6 walks and 10 earned runs.
Why aren’t the Nats getting Harper’s back??

Harper reacts to his purposeful drilling by Julio Teheran on 8/7/13. Photo Evan Habeeb-USA TODAY Sports
Julio Teheran blatantly drilled Bryce Harper after he thought Harper showed him up after hitting a long bomb on August 7th. There was no question the pitch was purposely thrown at Harper. (By the way; watch the video of that home run and try to find the objectionable action there. Maybe he pauses slightly, maybe he tosses his bat away instead of dropping it, maybe he runs slower than normal. Not one of these actions comes even close to what some guys in this league do on EVERY homer, ahem Yasiel Puig).
What did the Nats do in response? Nothing.
Last night, Harper was hit not just once but TWICE. First in the 4th inning on an errant Alex Wood curveball, then again in the 8th when Luis Avilan threw a ridiculous pitch behind Harper’s head.
What did the Nats do in response? Again, nothing.
The Nats broadcast team (as heard in the link for last night’s game above) said it right: “What is going on??”
I don’t care if Harper got hit with a curve (not on purpose) and a wild fastball (probably not on purpose, since it put the go-ahead runner on base in a tight game). I don’t care what the situation is; YOU HAVE TO RESPOND in kind. Enough is enough. That’s three straight plunkings of our best guy by the same team inside of a week.
The reaction of the Atlanta crowd was rather telling. Pathetic in that they cheered the HBP and then gave Avilan a standing ovation. However also telling because the message is clear; the Nationals ball club, for whatever reason, is not responding in kind to their best hitter getting repeatedly thrown at.
What is going on?? Why aren’t the Nats protecting Harper? Why aren’t they responding to these HBPs?
The correct response to the August 7th event would have been to hit Justin Upton in the middle of the back the next time he came to the plate. First pitch. Plain and simple. Why Upton? Because it was Upton who just the night before did the exact same thing that Harper was accused of, only it took him LONGER to prance around the bases. If Harper got hit because the Braves thought he was too slow around the bases, then how exactly do they excuse Upton’s trot, which was 4 seconds longer? And the correct response last night was to absolutely drill the first guy up in the bottom of that inning. No questions; first pitch, in the back.
I don’t know what the hell Davey Johnson is doing. Why wasn’t he out on the field last night, defending his player? Why wasn’t he calling out Atlanta’s manager Fredi Gonzalez? Why isn’t he ordering a response?? Why isn’t he showing any of the passion you would expect from a hall of fame manager who should know better? Better question; why aren’t Harper’s teammates taking any initiative here and doing what should be done? Where’s the leadership on this team? Where’s the leadership in this clubhouse??
If your answer is, “well it was a close game and the Nats couldn’t afford to purposely put a runner on base” then my response is this: 59-62. That’s the team’s record right now. You want another couple numbers? 15.5 (games out of first place with 6 weeks of the season to go), or how about 9.5 (games out of the wild card behind a team clearly better than them). The point is this; the season is over. They’re playing out the string. Time to start standing up for yourselves, protect your teammate, show some g*d d*mn spine, and protect your best hitter for the future.
I can’t image what Harper is thinking about his manager and his teammates right now. If it were me, I’d be asking my manager and my teammates point blank to their faces why i’m not being protected. It almost makes you wonder if his teammates flat out don’t like him. Is that what’s going on? Is the Nats clubhouse, which I’ve accused many times of being dysfunctional, even worse than we thought?
If you don’t think beanball justice has a role in the game, then you’ve either never played the game or don’t understand this aspect of it. The Nats are sending a message that its ok to go after their guys. That’s a really bad precedent to create.
Lincecum’s pending Free Agency; what’s he worth?
An interesting question was posed in an ESPN chat a while ago that I made a note on to come back to.
Should the Giants offer Tim Lincecum a qualifying offer, or just cut him loose without any compensation ties this coming off season? And a better question: if you were a GM looking for pitching this coming off-season, what would you offer him?
First some stats. Lincecum is in the last year of a 2yr/$40.5M deal signed to avoid his last two years of arbitration. This is on the heels of a 2yr/$23M deal that took out his first two years of arbitration. He’s already north of $60M in career earnings before hitting his first pure free agent contract. But he’s at a cross-roads.
Take a look at the progression of his career stat-wise: 2 straight Cy Youngs before even hitting his first year of arbitration (which, if you remember, was a Super-2 year because the Giants apparently cannot read a calendar; this little snafu cost them probably $20M in salary). He went from an ERA+ of 171 in 2010 to last year’s bottoming out season, where he posted a 68 ERA+, a 5.18 ERA and was pulled from the rotation in favor of Barry Zito (an insult to end all insults) in the playoffs.
Garrett Hooe at FederalBaseball just posted a great analysis as well, including insight into Lincecum’s breakdown of mechanics, his velocity loss and other things. His analysis is great; no need to replicate it here.
In 2013 he’s regained some of his performance but not enough; he’s still pitching like a 5th/6th starter. His month-by-month splits give no help: he was decent to good in April, awful in May, decent to good in June, mediocre in July and so far has been lights out in August. The offensively-challenged Nats just tagged him for 6 runs in 6 innings en route to his 12th loss of the season.
Overall, his velocity is down, he has weird mechanics, and he’s clearly deviating from those weird mechanics as of late. What GM out there is willing to give him a shot, given those two parameters? Probably more than a few frankly, given his pedigree, but at what cost?
The answer to the second question (what is his value on the FA market) drives the answer to the first question (whether to offer him a QO). I went looking for some comparisons from last year’s FA market to try to estimate what his market may be this coming off season and found the following data points of interest:
- Freddie Garcia pitched to an 80 ERA+ (matching Lincecum’s in 2013) but had a 5.18 ERA in New York. He’s also older (35 versus 29). He signed a combo minor/major league deal that pays him $1.3M this year.
- Dan Haren had an 89 ERA+, as 12-13 record with a 4.33 ERA last year and signed a one-year, $13M deal with the Nats. But he was a near Cy Young winner just two years prior and was hurt most of 2012 (that was what we kept telling ourselves when we all talked ourselves into this signing anyway).
- Jorge de la Rosa, coming off a lost season to injury but a great 2011, signed a 1 year $11M deal.
- Joe Saunders pitched to a 101 ERA+ between two teams, is slightly older and is almost the definition of a MLB average pitcher (career ERA+: exactly 100. career ERA: 4.20). He signed a 1yr $6.5M deal with Seattle.
- Speaking of MLB average guys; Gavin Floyd also owns a career ERA+ of 100, and had exactly that for the White Sox in 2012. His contract? 1yr, $9.5M.
- Jason Marquis was awful last year; 8-11 with a 5.22 ERA and a 72 ERA+. He got a 1year $3M deal to come back to San Diego and regain value. Fun fact: Marquis is a career 94 ERA+ pitcher, has a career ERA over 4.50, has a CAREER bWAR of 5.5 (that’s about half of what Mike Trout had in bWAR just last season) and yet has more than $50 million in career earnings. Wow. I’m in the wrong business.
- Joe Blanton was pretty awful for two teams in 2012, going 10-15 with a 4.71 ERA, yet somehow earned a 2yr/$15M contract extension from the Angels. Blanton, by the way, is 2-13 this year. I’m not sure how exactly Blanton got anything more than a couple million dollars, to say nothing of a 2 year contract. I question the sanity of the Angels management.
Ok. So using these examples from last year’s FA market … uh, I have no idea what Lincucum is worth. I’d say he’s better than Blanton, so that mean’s he’s better than $7.5M/year. But that was such an awful contract that I don’t see how you can use it as a benchmark. Meanwhile, if Gavin Floyd’s consistency year over year is worth $9.5M, then how do you value the possible jeckyl and hyde that you’re going to get from Lincecum?
If I was a GM, looking at his body of work and his last two seasons, I probably would end up somewhere between Floyd’s $9.5M and de la Rosa’s $11M on a one-year deal. As they say, there are no bad one-year deals, and if it goes south its just money. 1year, $10M on a career-saving flier taken by some NL team out there willing to roll the dice and spend some cash.
Probably not the Nationals though, not after the Haren experience and considering what Taylor Jordan has given the team in a 5th starter role this year. You’d have to think Mike Rizzo heads into the off-season with his 3 big guns under contract, his 4th guy Ross Detwiler on the mend, with Jordan penciled into the 5th starter and with the likes of Nathan Karns, Taylor Hill, and Caleb Clay providing the first line of reinforcements in AAA.
So I predict the Giants will not offer him a qualifying offer, thus cutting ties with one of their most iconic players in the last 25 years. It will be a sad time in San Francisco head-shops everywhere.
Would you rather have Houston or Durham’s rotation, revisited
At the beginning of the season, Houston’s MLB rotation looked so weak that I asked in this space whether you would prefer to have the Houston Astros MLB rotation or the Durham Bulls (AAA affiliate of Tampa) Opening Day rotation?
Now, more than 2/3’s the way through the season, lets take another look. Here’s some quick links for reference: Houston’s B-R stats, Tampa’s B-R stats, Houston’s Fangraphs Stats, Tampa’s Fangraphs stats and MILB’s Durham stats.
All stats as of 8/6/13.
So, here’s how Houston’s opening day rotation has performed thus far:
| Rank | Name | Age | 2013 Stats as of 8/6/13 | Notes |
| 1 | Bud Norris | 28 | (MLB) 7-9, 3.89 ERA, 1.394 whip, 106 ERA+, 3.95 fip | Traded to Baltmore |
| 2 | Lucas Harrell | 28 | (MLB) 5-12, 5.37 ERA, 1.668 whip, 76 ERA+, 5.41 fip | Demoted to bullpen July 9th |
| 3 | Philip Humber | 30 | (MLB) 0-8, 9.59 ERA, 2.019 whip, 43 ERA+, 5.81 fip | Demoted to AAA May 11th |
| 4 | Erik Bedard | 34 | (MLB) 3-8, 4.29 ERA, 1.44 whip, 96 ERA+, 4.42 fip | Team is 6-14 in his starts |
| 5 | Brad Peacock | 25 | (MLB) 1-4, 7.25 ERA, 1.583 whip, 57 ERA+, 6.57 fip | Demoted to AAA April 30th |
Here I see one #4 starter (Norris), one #5 starter (Bedard), one guy who wouldn’t make any other team’s rotations (Harrell) and two abject failures in Humber and our own former farmhand Peacock (though it should be noted, Peacock just got recalled, threw 7 innings of 3-run ball, struck out 10 guys and lowered his ERA nearly a full point).
Now, here’s the same stats for Durham’s opening day rotation, showing MLB stats where I could:
| Rank | Name | Age | 2013 Stats as of 8/6/13 | Notes |
| 1 | Chris Archer | 24 | (MLB) 6-4, 2.65 ERA, 1.085 whip, 144 ERA+, 4.22 whip | Promoted June 1, 12 starts thus far |
| 2 | Jake Odorizzi | 23 | (AAA Dur): 8-5, 3.73 ERA, 1.20 whip | Has 3 spot starts in May and June with a 6.00 ERA in 18 MLB innings |
| 3 | Alex Colome | 25 | (AAA Dur): 4-6, 3.07 ERA, 1.31 whip | 3 spot starts in May/June with a 2.25 ERA in 16 mlb innings |
| 4 | Mike Montgomery | 23 | (AAA Dur): 46-5, 4.28 ERA, 1.43 whip | injured earlier in year, in minors all year. |
| 5 | Alex Torres | 25 | (MLB) 4-0 0.26 ERA, 0.612 whip, 1470 ERA+, 1.64 fip | Has given up 1 ER in 34 MLB innings pitching out of the pen. |
Durham’s opening day rotation has matriculated one mainstay to the Tampa rotation in Chris Archer (he has the best adjusted ERA+ of any of Tampa’s rotation right now) and a second guy in Alex Torres who has given up exactly one run in 34 mlb innings this year. Alex Colome had three effective spot starts, Jake Odorizzi had 3 relatively ineffective MLB spot starts, and Mike Montgomery missed some time with an injury and has not yet debuted. It should be noted that both Odorizzi and Montgomery are just 23 and still a bit young for the big stage.
So, which rotation would you rather have now? It isn’t like the Ray’s AAA guys Montgomery or Odorizzi could do any worse than what Houston’s 4th and 5th starters did this season. And you can clearly see that Archer’s performance trumps Norris’, and Torres’ amazing bullpen work is better than Bedard’s 96 ERA+ work.
The Rays continue to have the best pitching development system in the majors, even ahead of St. Louis, who turns out mid-90s hurler after mid-90s hurler.
First Look: Tanner Roark
A few days ago I was playing amateur GM and ended up predicting the 8/6/13 roster moves, where Ross Detwiler was transfered to the 60-day DL and Tanner Roark was called up to provide some bullpen cover while Ross Ohlendorf is on the mend. Roark’s body of work both this season and over the past few warranted his call-up, and his mixture of success both in the starter role and in a long-relief role in AAA make him the perfect candidate to replace Ohlendorf for the time being.
A quick side note: whenever I see someone, after years and years of toiling in the minors, finally get the call-up I’m reminded of the storytelling of Dirk Hayhurst in his 2nd book Out of My League, where he described all the logistics and feelings of getting his first callup. Of particular interest; the pay. I’m sure Roark was compensated like a typical minor league veteran in AAA; probably making $1,500 a month or so (which was about what Hayhurst said he made). Upon signing a MLB contract, you immediately start getting paid a pro-rated amount of a minimum MLB salary, which is $490,000 a season. Well, you can quickly see that a guy getting called up immediately starts making significantly more money. 30-40 TIMES more money. More money per day in the majors than he was making in a month in the minors. So I say good for Roark and good for every guy who finally gets a shot at the bigs.
Lets take a look at Roark’s first appearance… which came last night on 8/7/13 in relief of a curiously ineffective Jordan Zimmermann, who needed 88 pitches to complete 4 innings as the Nats officially waved the white flag on the season, getting swept at home by the team they’re chasing for the division lead and falling to 15 1/2 games out of first.
Roark had a great MLB debut. He came in to face Atlanta’s 4-5-6 hitters and pitched a 1-2-3 inning. He got a Brian McCann to fly out on a relatively well struck ball, then badly jammed Chris Johnson to get a simple grounder to short, and then got Dan Uggla to reach for a first pitch fastball for an equally weak grounder to second. Coming back out to face the bottom of the order he effectively jammed BJ Upton, who flared a flyball into shallow center field that Denard Span couldn’t quite come up with in a sliding catch attempt, then he jammed Andrelton Simmons to get a simple pop-up to first. Lastly for his coup-de-gras, he induced a popped-up bunt attempt from his opposite number Kris Medlen, made a diving catch and then doubled off Upton, who was (I guess) running on the play.
Not a bad debut, at all.
The scouting reports on Roark said that he’d work mid 90s in relief, low 90s as a starter, and that’s exactly what we saw. Per the pitch f/x data, He threw 12 fastballs on the night which averaged 94.46, peaking at 95.52. He only threw three sliders, bouncing the first and probably ruining his confidence in the pitch. 10 of 15 pitches were for strikes, and that ratio should have been higher; his first batter he didn’t get a borderline call on the outside corner and the ump flat out missed a low strike. He seemed to have pretty good movement on the 4-seamer (-7.10″ average horizontal movement, which for comparison purposes almost as much as Medlen, a guy who relies almost exclusively on his movement, got on his 2-seamer last night). He certainly worked the corners effectively, only really giving up one well hit ball (that to McCann, who benefitted from being way ahead in the count thanks to the ump’s missed strike calls). You don’t have to throw 100mph if you can effectively work the ball inside and out.
He was almost too effective; 15 pitches to get through 2 innings meant he didn’t really work much of his repertoire. I’m sure he has at least a third pitch, but we never got to see it. Roark’s spot in the order was up, and he was out (as he was being pinch hit for, I wondered internally when the last time Roark got an at-bat was. Turns out he has 18PAs for Syracuse this summer; I didn’t realize the minor league pitchers got any at-bats).
It was hard not to like what we saw from him last night. Is he going to continue to be effective, can he stick in the majors? Hard to tell. Ian Krol giving up two hits and a walk in a third of an inning didn’t help his cause much, a similiarly ineffective appearance to his 7/31 outing. Fernando Abad has basically blown the last two games in which he’s appeared. But these two guys are blessed as being left-handers, so they possess value that a righty does not, and may not really be candidates to make way once Ohlendorf comes off the D/L. So we’ll see.
Meanwhile Tanner, use some of that MLB meal money to go get a haircut! 🙂
PS. One more thought on this series since i’ve got nowhere else to put it; I’m disappointed we didn’t see retaliation of some sort last night for the BS of the night before. I’m sorry; you HAVE to protect your best player out there, and i’m not surprised to hear reports and see evidence that Bryce Harper was on edge last night with his own manager. As J.P. Santangelo succinctly pointed out; not protecting one of your own players can and does blow up clubhouses. I think somebody on Atlanta needed to get hit last night (likely McCann). I’m more than a little worried right now about the state of the clubhouse, given this lack of reaction.
One lesson learned from 2013: you can never have enough starting pitching

If Detwiler is out for the year, the Nats have a problem. Photo: Haraz Ghanbari/AP via federalbaseball.com
We all knew the Nationals had a glaring, acknowledged weakness heading into the 2013 season; almost no quality starting pitching depth in the high minors. We non-tendered former opening day starter John Lannan in lieu of paying him somewhere between $5M-$6M dollars to toil in Syracuse again. We non-tendered former starter Tom Gorzelanny despite his excellent 2012 season for us instead of paying him a few millions dollars a year to continue to be the 7th guy out of the pen. We traded away top starting pitching prospect Alex Meyer to acquire a center-fielder that (in my oft-stated opinion) we didn’t need. We were blinded by the excellent but short-sample-sized performance of Zach Duke upon his call-up last September and chose to make him not only the sole lefty in our 2013 pen, but the long-man/spot starter as well.
And we talked ourselves into it.
In 2012 our primary rotation made 150 of 162 starts. Those 12 missed starts were made by Chien-Ming Wang (five starts) in a quickly-aborted glimpse to see if the many millions of dollars invested in his recovery over the past few years were going to pay off (they did not), by Lannan (six) for a couple of mid-season spot starts and his Stephen Strasburg replacement plan in September, and one by Gorzelanny the day after the team clinched the division (editor note: mistakely originally put “pennant.” Duh). That’s it; otherwise the rotation was solid, consistent, and one of the best in the majors by any statistical measure.
Was it just hubris that led us to believe that the same thing would happen in 2013? That our vaunted rotation (which I certainly thought was the best in the majors before the season started) would steamroll through another 150+ starts in 2013 as we marched to the inevitable World Series title? Maybe so.
The latest blow is the news that Ross Detwiler‘s herniated disk may very well keep him out for the rest of 2013. Taylor Jordan has been more than ably filling in for Detwiler … but in a familiar twist Jordan is facing an innings restriction limit. After August 4th’s start he’s got 40 2/3 major league innings in 2013 to go with 90 1/3 in the minors for 131 total on the year. He only threw 54 1/3 all of 2012 coming back from Tommy John surgery, and this year easily marks a professional career high (he’s never thrown more than 100 professional innings). He’s going to get shut down, soon (in about four more starts per the Washington Times’ Amanda Comak, which would put him just about at the same 160ip limit that both Strasburg and Jordan Zimmermann pitched to the year after their own TJ surgeries). This leaves the team right back where they were on May 20th, when the whole “find a competent 5th starter” charade started.
Duke failed and was released. Yunesky Maya got his last attempt at pitching in the majors and was outrighted (a move long overdue in the opinion of many Nats followers). Nathan Karns got three bites at the apple and returned to AA with a 7.50 ERA. Ross Ohlendorf gave us a fantastic spot start in a double header last week… and just went on the D/L after not being able to dial it up more than 85mph in his last appearance. The only other 40-man starter in the whole of the minors is Matthew Purke, currently posting a 6.35 ERA in high-A.
Hey, at least Dan Haren suddenly resembles the 2009 version of himself, having tossed 14 innings oof one-run ball en route to winning his last two starts. A month ago we were talking about releasing him.
So, what should the team do when Jordan is shutdown? It sounds to me like in the short term we’ll go back to Ohlendorf as the 5th starter (assuming of course his recent “dead arm” injury doesn’t turn into much more than a quick D/L trip). However, despite Ohlendorf’s excellent work for us thus far, lets not forget why he was available on a minor league deal in the first place; his ERAs in 2011 and 2012 were 8.15 and 7.77 respectively. Odds are that he’s not likely to be that effective going forward.
Plus, Ohlendorf’s time in the rotation means the bullpen will need another guy … presumably one that can pitch long relief to replace Ohlendorf. I’m not entirely sure any of the other relievers on the 40-man but in the minors (Drew Storen, Erik Davis or Tyler Robertson) fits the bill. Craig Stammen has absolutely done that role in the past, but I think Stammen’s value to this team now lies in his 7th inning “bridge reliever” role, getting the team from a short start to the 8th/9th inning guys.
If Detwiler is indeed out for the year I think he should be immediately transferred to the 60-day D/L (opening up a spot on the 40-man roster) and I’d like to see Tanner Roark get a look-see as the long man in the bullpen. He’s put up very good numbers in AAA this season in a swing-man role and faces minor league free agency this off-season. Or, I wouldn’t be opposed to keeping Ohlendorf in the pen and giving Danny Rosenbaum a shot at the 5th starter. He’s been the most effective AAA starter all year and, despite not being that overpowering, could turn into another Tommy Milone-esque lefty starter that we could leverage in trade. We may not have fantastic depth in the upper minors, but you never know who may suddenly be an effective MLB pitcher (see Krol, Ian).
(Editor’s note: after I wrote this mid-weekend MASN’s Byron Kerr wrote and posted almost identical analysis).
Atlanta’s pending starting pitching concerns
When Atlanta lost bulldog staff Ace Tim Hudson to a gruesome ankle injury last week, the Braves were able to immediately plug in the promising Alex Wood to the rotation and not really miss a beat, at least in the short term. But an interesting point mentioned by Buster Olney in his daily ESPN Baseball Tonight podcast highlighted a dilemna that the Braves may face later this season.
Specifically; they’re depending on a lot of young arms right now who are projected to blow past 2012 and/or career innings totals, and the team may be facing a critical decision when it comes to managing innings and workload as this season progresses. This is very much of a Tom Verducci-effect concern, which admittedly some people do not subscribe to, but some of these potential workload increases are so substantial that they cannot be ignored.
Here’s a table showing the number of innings their current set of younger starters have thrown this year (in all levels) as compared to last year (innings as of 8/1/13). The season right now is basicaly 2/3’s over (108 of 162 games played), so I’ve used a simple 33% addition to current workloads:
| Starter | Age | 2013 Innings to date | 2013 projected | 2012 ttl innings | Projected delta | Projected delta % increase |
| Mike Minor | 25 | 144 | 191.52 | 179.33 | 12.19 | 6.36% |
| Julio Teheran | 22 | 126 | 167.58 | 137.33 | 30.25 | 18.05% |
| Kris Medlen | 27 | 125 | 166.25 | 151.33 | 14.92 | 8.97% |
| Alex Wood | 22 | 95.33 | 126.7889 | 154.33 | -27.53 | -21.70% |
However, this may be too simplistic a projection. Each of their starters has about 10 starts left. Lets assume each of them goes an average of 6 innings in each of these starts. Now the 2013 projected totals rise a bit;
| Starter | Age | 2013 Innings to date | 2013 projected factoring 6ip/start for 10 starts | 2012 ttl innings | New projected delta | New projected delta % |
| Mike Minor | 25 | 144 | 204 | 179.33 | 24.67 | 13.76% |
| Julio Teheran | 22 | 126 | 186 | 137.33 | 48.67 | 35.44% |
| Kris Medlen | 27 | 125 | 185 | 151.33 | 33.67 | 22.25% |
| Alex Wood | 22 | 95.33 | 155.33 | 154.33 | 1.03 | 0.67% |
Mike Minor has never had any injury concerns and only really faces a small increase in the number of innings he will throw, but if he gets much above 200 innings there may be some concerns. If he hits 204 innings, that’s a 13% workload increase over last year.
Likewise with Kris Medlen; if he makes 10 more starts and averages 6 innings a start, he’s looking at more than a 20% workload increase over last year. Medlen is technically still coming back from Tommy John surgery done on 8/18/2010, though it isn’t as much of a concern this year as it was last (when they worked him out of the bullpen before installing him in the rotation later in the year). A potential 20% innings increase year to year has got to be concerning for a guy with a TJ surgery in his background.
Meanwhile, Julio Teheran doesn’t have any injury history to fend with … but he’s looking at a pretty significant jump over his 2012 inning totals. His career high was in 2011 with about 160 between the minors and majors. But if he continues in the rotation he’ll start to get up there towards the 180 innings range, a pretty significant jump over last year.
Lastly there’s Wood, their 2nd round pick in 2012’s draft. He has rocketed up the farm system, dominating the Sally league in his draft year, skipping high-A, then dominating AA before getting the call-up. When you add in his college workload to his 2012 minor league numbers, he may be right in line to pitch the same number of innings as lastyear. There’s just the small concern of a guy who this time last year was making his professional debut in low-A continuing to be effective for a major league team in a pennant race.
This analysis doesn’t include any innings analysis for Hudson (out for the year), Paul Maholm (currently on the D/L) or Brandon Beachy (just coming back from injury and without innings limitations this late in the season) since they’re either unavailable or don’t have any inning limit concerns. Beachy had his Tommy John surgery on 6/21/13 and, while he should be healthy, still may not be 100% (to this point, his first start back was a debacle, giving up 7 runs in 3 2/3 innings). Maholm is on the D/L now but should be off within a couple weeks (he has a “Wrist Contusion”), but he’s also their least effective starter on the year. And of course Hudson is out until at least next spring with his broken ankle at best; his career in jeopardy at worst.
What should they do?
As you can imagine, their problem may be exacerbated because somebody has to throw post-season games (I think its safe to assume the Braves are making the post-season at this point).
This is why some questioned the Braves lack of pursuing a starter in the trade market to replace Hudson and keep Wood in the minors. Of course, the Braves probably didn’t want to do this knowing they had Beachy coming off the D/L and Maholm returning soon too (probably pushing Wood back to AAA). But if Teheran runs out of innings, the Braves are looking at a post-season rotation that isn’t exactly a world-beater (Minor-Maholm-Beachy and Medlen?). Then again, that hasn’t stopped them while building a double-digit lead in the NL East.
It should be interesting to see if the Braves end up with a Stephen Strasburg shutdown-gate of their own as we head into September.
July 2013 Monthly Review of Nats Rotation by Opponent
[Editor’s note: duh, I published this with the wrong title; just fixed 8/2/13]
Continuing a monthly series of look-backs at our starters (here’s Apr 2013, May 2013, June 2013, July2013 posts), here’s a monthly glance at how our rotation is doing from a Starting Pitching standpoint. As with previous posts, we’ll have “Grades” per outing, the team’s performance per opposing starter sliced and diced a few ways, and other per-starter stuff that I like to track.
MLB Rotation Per-Start Grades (click here for Nats overall season stats)
- Strasburg: A,C,F,B,A+,D
- Gonzalez: C+,A,A+,B,F-
- Zimmermann: C-,C,B,F-,D
- Haren: C-,A+,D,A
- Jordan: B-,C-,B,C+,A
- Ohlendorf: B long relief,A spot start
- Detwiler: B- -> D/L
Quick Summary: A month where we had a handful of really shocking blow-up starts. Gonzalez‘s 11 run debacle yesterday, Strasburg‘s 2 inning/7 run meltdown being the most shocking examples. Only rookie Taylor Jordan kept an even keel, never pitching that badly and only really pitching excellently in his last start (also, not coincidentally his first win). I will say it is good to see Dan Haren putting in some good-to-great starts; that may really help. Ross Ohlendorf‘s injury yesterday better not be serious; Jordan’s innings limit is fast, fast approaching.
Performance By Opponent Starting Pitcher Rotation Order Number
A look at the opposing team’s rotation ranked 1-5 in the order they’re appearing from opening day. This table changes at the all-star break and honestly must be taken with a grain of salt, since guys like Clayton Kershaw are now the “#3 starter” because their turns were skipped coming out of the all-star game.
| Starter # | Record | Opposing Starter in Wins | Opposing Starter in Losses |
| 1 | 2-3 | Gallardo, Burnett | Hamels, Nolaso, Sanchez |
| 2 | 2-3 | Lee, Slowey | Peralta, Greinke, Verlander |
| 3 | 1-4 | Harvey | Lohse, Kendrick, Kershaw, Liriano |
| 4 | 2-1 | Marquis, Gee | Cole |
| 5 | 2-3 | Hand, Torres | Lannan, Fernandez, Morton |
| 5+ | 2-2 | Cashner, Erlin | Eovaldi, Mejia |
Quick thoughts: given the aforementioned caveat of having Justin Verlander listed as a #2 and Kershaw listed as a #3, the team more or less performed as you’d expect. A 1-4 record against opposing teams’ #3 starters is really skewed by the likes of Harvey, Lohse, Kershaw and Liriano in that grouping, all four guys being their team’s current aces. This table is becoming less and less meaningful as rotations get scattered as the season goes along.
Performance By Opponent Starting Pitcher Actual Performance Rank Intra-Rotation
A ranking of opposing teams’ rotations by pure performance at the time of the series, using ERA+ heavily.
| Starter # | Record | Opposing Starter in Wins | Opposing Starter in Losses |
| 1 | 3-4 | Lee, Harvey, Cashner | Sanchez, Lohse, Kershaw, Fernandez |
| 2 | 1-2 | Hand | Kendrik, Liriano |
| 3 | 4-2 | Gallardo, Burnett, Marquis, Gee | Greinke, Eovaldi |
| 4 | 1-4 | Erlin | Nolasco, Peralta, Verlander, Morton |
| 5 | 2-2 | Slowey, Torrez | Hamels, Cole |
| 5+ | 0-2 | Lannan, Mejia |
Quick Thoughts: the Nats actually held their own very well against other teams’ best performing guys. They hung losses on Matt Harvey somehow, and hung a loss on Cliff Lee. Less impressive was the collapse against AAA-callup Jenrry Mejia or the no-show against former teammmate John Lannan.
Performance By Opponent Starting Pitcher League-wide “Rank”
A team-independent assignment of a league-wide “rank” of what the starter is. Is he an “Ace?” Is he a #2?
| Starter # | Record | Opposing Starter in Wins | Opposing Starter in Losses |
| 1 | 2-4 | Harvey, Lee | Kershaw, Grienke, Verlander, Hamels |
| 2 | 0-3 | Sanchez, Liriano, Fernandez | |
| 3 | 2-3 | Gallardo, Burnett | Lohse, Nolasco, Cole |
| 4 | 0-1 | Kendrick | |
| 5 | 6-4 | Cashner, Hand, Marquis, Gee, Erlin, Slowey | Eovaldi, Peralta, Morton, Lannan |
| 5+ | 1-1 | Torres | Mejia |
Quick thoughts: despite a supposedly “weak” schedule the team faced a lot of big-time names in July. Six of the 27 games went against league-wide Aces, a tall order for any team. They also got whitewashed by the near-Aces/#2 starters, losing all three games against these types. More disappointing? Only a 6-4 record against league-wide #5 pitchers, the kind of guys that are nearly interchangeable with AAA players. Maybe John Lannan isn’t really a #5 starter (probably not; he’s probably more of a #4), but the rest of these guys?
Records by Pitching Advantage
Start-by-start advantages in my own opinion and then looking at the results.
| Wash | 4-6 | Zim-Gallardo, Gio-Cashner, Zim-Marquis, Stras-Erlin | Det-Lohse, Stras-Nolasco, Zim-Kendrick, Stras-Eovaldi, Stras-Peralta, Zim-Mejia |
| Even | 3-3 | Gio-Burnett, Jordan-Hand, Jordan-Torres | Gio-Verlander, Stras-Sanchez, Stras-Liriano |
| Opp | 4-8 | Jordan-Slowey, Ohlendorf-Harvey, Haren-Gee, Gio-Lee | Zimm-Kershaw, Gio-Greinke, Haren-Fernandez, Jordan-Hamels, Haren-Lannan, Jordan-Cole, Haren-Morton |
A sign of how our season has gone: I gave opponents the clear advantage in 12 of our 27 games this month. Compare this to April, when I only gave our opponents the advantage in TWO of our first 27 games. We’re to the point where Haren and Jordan are automatically underdogs nearly every time they take the mound, and we face enough power arms where our big three may not always be favored to win either.
Matchup analysis
Looking at the opposing starter rank that our guys are going up against to see how their competition fares.
| Nats Starters Opponents | matchup analysis | Nats Record under starter | |
| Strasburg | Two #2s, a #3 and three #5s | 1-5 | |
| Gonzalez | Three Aces, a #3 and a #5 | 3-2 | |
| Zimmermann | An Ace, a #3, a #4 and two #5s | 2-3 | |
| Haren | one #2, three #5s | 1-3 | |
| Detwiler | one #3 | 0-1 | |
| Jordan | An Ace, a #3 and three #5s | 3-2 | |
| Ohlendorf | An Ace in Harvey | 1-0 | |
Instead of classifying by rotation order in this table, this is by “league wide rank.” And we see some very interesting information.
- The team was only 1-5 in Strasburg’s 6 starts this month, and he wasn’t exactly going against an all-star collection of opposing starters. That’s a big-time area of concern. It all comes down to run support.
- Gio meanwhile had to face up with three of the best 20 pitchers in the league and still managed to have a winning record during his starts.
- Zimmermann, as we see in his grades, tailed off badly this month.
- Haren, despite facing off mostly against other #5 quality guys, still conspired to lose 3 of his four starts.
- Jordan, as we all know, has really surprised everyone and has been helping the team win.
- Ohlendorf faced off against one of (if not the) major’s best hurlers and the team got a win in his spot start.
Taylor Jordan: Never too soon to think about the future…

Taylor Jordan is making a case for his future with this organization. Photo via wffn.net/hueytaxi on flikr.com
I’ll file this as one of the “Patently Obvious” responses that have come out of Mike Rizzo‘s mouth in response to a reporter’s question, but Rizzo went “on record” as saying that Taylor Jordan will “get every opportunity to be in the mix for the rotation next year” per beat reports (this example from Byron Kerr) after Jordan got his first major league victory in Sunday 7/28/13’s 14-1 blow-out of the Mets.
Well, of course he’ll get a chance to compete for the rotation. He’s pitching a hell of a lot better right now than $13M man Dan Haren, for approximately 1/30th of the cost. What GM doesn’t want that??
One of the big reasons I started this blog was to talk about the development of Nats minor league pitchers. Back in the dark days, when the team was spending $15M on the FA market to acquire 5th starters like Jason Marquis, I became convinced that the single most valuable commodity in Major League Baseball (in terms of talent development and acquisition) was the pre-arbitration starting pitcher. Our farm system had the “Loria/Bowden” holes in terms of player development in the 2007-2009 time frame and for a few years the team couldn’t develop an effective starter, instead relying on guys like Marquis and on other minor league/low-end free agent signings (think Tim Redding, Daniel Cabrera, and the aging Livan Hernandez being examples). Rizzo came in, put the emphasis on drafting and development, and now the opening day rotation features 3 home-grown guys and a fourth in Gio Gonzalez who was acquired by trading other home-grown guys.
One of my biggest data-collection projects was the information behind my regular “Pitcher Wins on the Free Agency Market” post. After looking at pretty much every significant FA pitcher signing that baseball has ever had, and calculating salary versus wins, it became clear that teams are historically doing well if they get about one win per $1M spent on a FA pitcher. Sign a guy for $13M a year? You hope to get 13 wins out of him.
But this analysis also shows just how valuable the pre-arbitration, cost-controlled starter is. Consider Clay Buchholz for Boston in 2010; he goes 17-7 in his 3rd active year, earning the MLB minimum of $443,000. That 17-win capability eventually earned him a $12-$13M/year contract, but while he was getting the minimum he was winning games for Boston for pennies on the dollar versus what it would have cost Boston to purchase that capability on the open market.
Combine this point with the continually dwindling talent available on the FA market these as teams lock up their players earlier and more frequently, and the price for pitching just continues to go higher. Zack Greinke signed a 6 year $147M contract paying him more than $24M annually last summer partly because he was the only significant pitcher out there. Grienke is talented, don’t get me wrong, but outside of his unbelievable 2009 season he’s basically pitched like a #3 starter. Even this year, he’s pitching to a rather pedestrian 103 ERA+, just barely above the league average of adjusted ERA for starters. Not exactly what you expect for that kind of money. The 2014 Free Agent Market in terms of pitching is looking equally as bare as 2013. The best guy out there may be Matt Garza, who again is talented but is also injury prone and not exactly a league-wide Ace. Get past Garza and you’re looking at inconsistent (Ricky Nolasco or Phil Hughes), injury plagued (Shawn Marcum or Colby Lewis), just old guys (Freddy Garcia, Hiroki Kuroda) and pure wild cards (Tim Lincecum or Scott Kazmir).
There’s a reason Tampa went nearly 8 full seasons without having a Free Agent acquisition start a game for them; they know exactly what it means to develop effective starters, and they have a stableful of them. Trade away James Shields and Wade Davis? No problem; just call up Chris Archer and Alex Colome (never mind the rest of their Durham rotation).
So, back to Jordan. If the Nats can find an effective 4th or 5th starter from their farm system right now, it frees them from the one-year hired gun strategy of Haren and Edwin Jackson. It gives them the flexibility to continue to allow their best prospects in the lower minors to develop (i’m thinking specifically of A.J. Cole, Robbie Ray, Sammy Solis, and Matthew Purke, though Cole and Ray aren’t exactly in the “low” minors anymore with their promotions to AA). It gives them the depth they did not have this year to cover for a starting pitcher injury. It gives them time to let Nathan Karns figure out if he’s going to be a starter or a reliever at the MLB level. It gives them added payroll flexibility can go towards fixing holes in the short term. Longer term it allows the team to spend money on extending the core guys, or allows them to consider whether the rising price tag on someone like Ross Detwiler is worth paying (much like they cut loose John Lannan last year). If you’re going to pay market value for Strasburg and Harper, then you’re going to need some low-cost players who can contribute to counter balance the payroll.
Or, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see this either, it gives Rizzo interesting trade chips that he could package with other guys to acquire the Haren/Jackson hurler instead of buying him.
Two years ago we acquired Gonzalez for two near-to-the-majors starters, a surplus catcher prospect and a low-minors/high profile arm. Right now it seems like we could put nearly the same package together (Jordan, Karns, Jhonatan Solano or Sandy Leon and then a decent arm from A-ball, or maybe even a Ray or Cole) and move them for such a resource. I wouldn’t put it past Rizzo; Jordan may be looking good right now, but his peripherals don’t project as a “Rizzo Guy.” Neither did Tommy Milone so he got shipped out; will Jordan be a 5th starter candidate in 2014 or trade bait?
Personally, I’d like to see Jordan succeed. He’s a great success story; unhearalded 9th rounder coming off an injury that most of us thought was good, but who also thought that finishing the year successfully at high-A would have been a great achievement. Instead he blows through high-A and AA ball and is now more than holding his own in the majors.




